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afterdark 26th May 2006 01:37

My Travel
 
is MYT having a problem with an aircraft shortage, damaged or maintainance issue at this point of the season, there seems to be a lot of subcharters at Glasgow at the moment using Futura, Flyglobespan and Air Finland aircraft.
their 767-300 G-SJMC left on tuesday to ? flight MYT006P and G-DAJC 767-300 arriving from Abu Dhabi Wednesday morning flight MYT007E.

Flyboy543 26th May 2006 07:49

Same kind of thing happening at EMA, A320 G-VCED has dissappeared after numerous problems with the no1 engine. Another A320 at the moment is taking its place. Last week they hired an Air Slovakia 757 to do the PMI route.

Could be an interesting summer for MY Travel if this continues!

GOLF-INDIA BRAVO 26th May 2006 09:04

Don`t think it is only MyTravel having problems this spring as I cannot remember so many sub charters at Manchester as there have been this week

G-I-B

lba2006 26th May 2006 09:34

The Futura is planned to do all the GLA - HRG flights this summer, so it isn't a sub

svw8700 26th May 2006 09:43

G-VCED is now operating out of LGW. GLA flights have been subbed due to the late arrival of a SSV A320, which was subsequently damaged on the ground in MAN.

firstforfirstchoice 26th May 2006 13:41

It is the same at BHX, one of Mytravel's A321's has been down at BHX on various days over May, in place of one of their two A320's that they base at BHX.

Perhaps their fleet redution has had something to do with this.

richardnei 26th May 2006 15:13

In BFS todays BFS-SFB flight MYT056 is showing delayed indefinitely, should have left at 09:55 this morning.

MYT055 Sanford Orlando 09:55 - DELAYED INDEFINITELY

Whats happen to this flight?

Richard

ILOVEMCO 26th May 2006 16:08

richardnei

I believe that flight originates at GLA before heading to BFS, according to
SFB's website

http://www.orlandosanfordairport.com...splay=Arrivals

Perhaps it's still at GLA

Thomas_Cook_757-300 26th May 2006 17:30

Hi,

A Skyservice A320 was damaged on the ground on the 3rd May by ground equipment and is due to re-enter service on 10th June I believe and an A330 was damaged last week by ground crews at Las Vegas which caused a lengthy delay.

G-SJMC was positioning to Manchester as MYT006P I believe?

Other then that, Manchester has been operating with excellent OTP during May with the majority of flights arriving early - some have been noted as much as an hour and 5 minutes ahead of schedule.

Thanks
Thomas_Cook_757-300

Mr Angry from Purley 26th May 2006 20:40

Presumably they are using a FUTURA aircraft on the GLA-HRG due to their somewhat flexible working arrangements whereas My Travel would have to crew change in HRG or double crew the flight.
Safety first!:\

afterdark 27th May 2006 03:25

Flyglobespan who did the HRG flights for MYT last year on a Friday didn't do a crew swap ! so why would MYT ?.... do MYT do a crew swap on the SSH route ?

Kestrel_909 27th May 2006 10:44

I believe the BFS-SFB 767 had an engine problem and departed around 0020local this morning, the return was operated with an A332 without a 15hour delay, not sure if it was on time but certainly more on time than the outbound.

Today's MyT GLA-SFB is to be operated by a DC10, of Omni Air?

Mr Angry from Purley 27th May 2006 10:53

afterdark
Your right, Globespan did it last year and no-one sure how!, Im certainly aware it was a concern for the Pilots there:\

FlyZB 27th May 2006 19:59

Many of the short haul flights out of MAN have been operating on the A330's of late, with loads of only around 180 - 200 pax. This would suggest they're suffering from an aircraft shortage. They got rid of a couple of 320's to other airlines just before the start of the summer and it appears they're suffering a little as a result. No A320's are based at MAN at the minute. MAN currently has 2 based A321's (G-SMTJ and G-DHJH) and a third 321 (G-NIKO) has been positioning in from BHX/NCL at weekends and then positioning out again. Clearly not ideal and if this continues, there are bound to be delays as a result

danskpilot 27th May 2006 22:12

Normal start to summer for MYT. Nothing to do with the guys who work there- just the normal planning by their Directors who always know better than their staff when it comes to operational issues. When will they understand NH and SS needs to go?????? Also the Ops Manager is on his way out..................

firstforfirstchoice 28th May 2006 07:53

Does anyone know where Mytravel's B757 and now two B767's are based.

Think their B757 is based at Manchester, but not sure, what about their two B767's, where are they based??

Thanks for any help in advance,

Cheers.

Torque2 28th May 2006 09:42

Certainly 1 based in Gla, not sure if both aren't.:)

Wodrick 28th May 2006 09:55

757 - MAN
1 x 767 - MAN
1 x 767 Split MAN / GLA

MAN has 3 x A321 - no 320

Odd things happening like 321 at NCL and 767/330 with 320 loads due to the damaged 320 currently under repair - OK

codpiece face 28th May 2006 10:24

The GLA based 767 ops six days a week and positions to MAN on a sunday to do a SSH, would not call that a split would call that a GLA based 767. This week it is doing some short haul flying from GLA as the leased air finland 757 has returned.

firstforfirstchoice 28th May 2006 14:48

Thanks for that guys, I know BHX have had a A321 operating on certain days, along with the other A320, as mentioned most likely due to one of their A320's been damaged.

Cheers. :ok: :ok:

thebeehive 29th May 2006 07:42

Hope my A320 I am due to fly on soon LGW-MIR becomes a 332/757/763 :}
No hope but I can dream!

firstforfirstchoice 29th May 2006 14:34

Okay, no need to shout!!

Think everyone know's now that Mytravel are doing just fine at Newcastle!!

Let's hope they keep it up then.

Cheers.:ok: :ok:

INTHEOUTBACK 29th May 2006 17:09

Well you know what its like up north, we've got to shout because everyone forgets about us up in the wilds:E.

SM82 2nd Jun 2006 09:54

Possible bid from First Choice to buy MyTravel
 
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/investi...&in_page_id=23

sky9 2nd Jun 2006 12:49

MyTravel bid speculation
 
Today's Daily Telegraph suggests that both First Choice and TUI are looking at mounting a bid for "why travel".

Harry the Hound 2nd Jun 2006 22:19

Ahh My My (pardon the pun) how times change, i remember when they were after First Choice not so long ago, I would think that would be a tasty investment for FC or TUI, I'd of thought with FC's current buying power they'd be the favourites and with FC's intrest in the American/Canadian market the ownership of SkyService fleet would be very useful and profitable to them. How's MYT getting on paying back their missing 900 million or what ever it was, got to of made a decent dent in it by now surely?

Pilot Pete 2nd Jun 2006 22:33

From Travel Mole


City speculates on £2.5bn MyTravel takover

The City was rife with speculation yesterday about a possible £2.5 billion takeover of MyTravel as the group's shares rose before falling back again.

Rumours centred on First Choice being in the frame to bid for Airtours parent MyTravel - ironic given that the reverse was the case prior to MyTravel's well documented financial woes of four years ago.

TUI was also talked about being in the frame for MyTravel, which has seen recovery following a financial restructuring. TUI was also being linked with a move for First Choice.

First Choice shares were up 8.5 to 223.5p yesterday with MyTravel ending the day up 2.5p to 240.5p.

Industry insiders do not see the sense in First Choice moving away from a strategy of developing higher earning specialist areas such as adventure holidays.

However, it has long been thought that the so-called Big Four UK tour operators - TUI, Thomas Cook, First Choice and MyTravel - are prime candidates for consolidation particularly now they face increasing competition from no-frills airlines and online travel firms which have far lower cost bases.

Both MyTravel and First Choice announce interim results in two weeks time.

I'd of thought with FC's current buying power they'd be the favourites
Not sure why you would think First Choice would have greater buying power than TUI, I think it comes more down to how any suiter would view My Travel fitting into their plans. As the article points out, First Choice have been moving more towards the 'high end' tour operating market, whereas TUI have stayed with their 'bucket and spade' market and started developing a scheduled 'low fares' (they don't call it low cost) arm within their UK airline Thomsonfly and German sister Hapag Lloyd Express.

PP

afterdark 3rd Jun 2006 03:37

I also cant see where the MYT long haul Airbus fleet apart from the 2 763's that Skyservice had (personally I dont use MYT for long flights due to use of 763 that was bent previously at Punta Cana )would mix well with FCA's Boeing long haul fleet & FCA the UK launch customer for the 787.

Pilot Pete 3rd Jun 2006 07:01

I personally wouldn't have thought that fleet types would be the big issue, whichever airline/ parent company were to buy it would gradually change to the fleet of their choice. First Choice already have an Airbus Fleet if that makes any difference, whereas TUI are all Boeing.

I would have thought that it would be the market share that any purchaser would want to get their hands on, which again, as First Choice is actively trying to move out of the lower end of the IT market (a shrinking market due to the lo-co competition) then a purchase of My Travel would not seem to fit with this strategy.

PP

Harry the Hound 6th Jun 2006 03:14

Some good points there, to be honest i didnt take in to account so much the UK fleet, I would think FC wouldn't be in a hurry to change it all over, I imagine they'd operate Airtours along side First Choice for a couple of years, watching their aquasitions over the past few years they've gradually intergrated them. I just imagine that Skyservice and Sunquest Canada would work nicely alongside Travel Choice shops that FC already have in Canada and the thought of a fleet overseas for FCA would seem quite juicy too, especially considering they're moving away from short haul europe market, and there isnt such a strong loco competition operating from Canada to the Caribbean.
Surely though with either an FC or TUI bid the monopolies and merger comission wont be to happy! eventually it will mean less choice for consumers which they really dont like.

Han Special 6th Jun 2006 14:37

Since the takeover of FC by MYT was blocked by the EU a few years ago due to competition rules, why should they allow anyone to takeover MYT now?Having said that there is probably room for some consolidation in the charter market now that LCC's are eating their lunch.

There are obvious synergies when you look at the international situation re canada and skyservice.FC is also a british carrier which has a similar market share to myt.A very interesting rumour but nevertheless thats all it is.

Saxon Ops 8th Jun 2006 23:27

CAA AUC stats confirm MYT No 1 OTP airline Winter 2005/6, well ahead of competition. OTP appears to be good for start of summer despite problems with 2 x aircraft involved in ground damage.

Nice to see an airline willing to spend money on sub-charters to reduce delays and put passengers first. Historically, MYT like others just ran with massive delays for days. Apparently, not any more.

Futura aircraft is operating a whole line of flying at GLA, mostly under their flight designator but HRG and some Turkey flights on MYT flight number due fifth-freedom / licence issues. FUA will be operating according to MYT flight time limitations per JAR-OPS requirements. I hear BALPA consulted on operation as part of foreign carrier approval by CAA - public record. No worries about foreigners putting Brits out of work.

A321 ex-MAN is used to cover A320 at other bases when they are required on hangar check. A321 is back-filled with Boeing.

A330 sometimes used to cover disruption because it is planned stand-by aircraft on many days.

All very logical and well planned. Lets wait and see May OTP figures to see how well they still doing.

As for the bid rumours; maybe FCA and TUI just realising they are not top dogs anymore and need to buy to improve their own performance.

MYT - from basket case to sought after in just over one year. Not bad management from where I sit.

Tommyinyork 13th Jun 2006 11:23

If FCA buy MYT i can see the fleets pretty much remain the same.
If TUI take over, god knows what will happen to the Airbuses.
Weren't Air Atlanta interested at one point ?

firstforfirstchoice 1st Jul 2006 16:17

Mytravel- A350's or B787's as A330 replacement??
 
Hi all,

Just had a quick look in the current Airline world magazine, which says that Mytravel have begun detailed studies for their A330 replacement.

Are they getting "back on their feet" now financially?? As there has been rumours of take over from First Choice or Thomson.

Let's hope no take over happens and let's hope an order will be announcend in the short term for new aircraft, my bet is on the A350.

As I know Mytravel have had their fare share of problems over the last few years, like evert airline/company has, but I think they are starting to catch up with the big three UK holiday companies again, First Choice, Thomas Cook and Thomson and I hope they find their way back on top where they belong.

Long live Mytravel, even if we still have some of their planes in old hybird/Airtours livery!! Get em painted!! The rate were going, Mytravel will decide to change their livery or branding again!!

Also while on the subject of Mytravel, does anyone know what will happen to their B757-200 and their two B767-300's after the summer 2006 season, as I thought the comapny were getting rid of their Boeing fleet, or has this changed??

Many thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions on this topic. :ok: :ok:

akerosid 1st Jul 2006 16:31

Purely speculation on my part and I have no inside knowledge of the airline, but it appears to me that a charter airline would be more likely to pick the 787, due to the extra cabin width; the A350 can't take nine abreast, but the 787 could, quite comfortably.

I don't really see anyone else buying the A350, as it's been discredited due to the very public criticism by major airlines and leasing companies.

longarm 1st Jul 2006 18:44

Thought the A350 was the same cabin width as the A330? This accomodates 3-3-3.

Fuel Crossfeed 1st Jul 2006 20:45

The A350 no longer exists it has gone back to the drawing board. As longarm says and I think too, it was going to be same width as A330. Airbus were not happy about the feedback from various airlines after their presentations, so its been put back a couple of years and a rethink by the designers.
Glad MYT are are back on their feet as well!!

Mr @ Spotty M 1st Jul 2006 21:21

The A350 or A370 or what they are going to call it, is going to have a wider cabin width than B787.:ok:

haughtney1 1st Jul 2006 21:23


The A350 or A370 or what they are going to call it, is going to have a wider cabin width than B787.
Yeah...Airbus can reap the benefits.....5 years late:}

30W 13th Sep 2006 14:22

My Travel Recovery Plan Slips
 
Seems MYT's recovery plan still has some way to go - shares majorly down on todays stock market announcement.......

"Travel group MyTravel lost ground in London on Wednesday, after it slashed its 2006 profit forecast and said its U.K. business won't move back into profit this year.

Broadly, the U.K. FTSE 100 index added 0.2% at 5,906, as investors took on board a positive end to trading on Wall Street overnight. European markets were also higher.

MyTravelwas trading down 8.3% in London, having traded down as much as 20% lower earlier in the session.

The company said that it now expects to report pretax profit of 40 million to 45 million pounds for fiscal 2006, the first time it's reported a profit since 2001.

Analysts at Merrill Lynch said that they were expecting the company to earn 66 million pounds in the year, while a consensus estimate supplied by Reuters had pegged profit at 85 million pounds, the bank said.

The company also said its U.K. business is no longer expected to return to profit this year and would post a loss of 10 million to 15 million pounds.

MyTravel said that the recent U.K. security alerts and terrorist incidents in Turkey and Jordan compounded an already difficult summer trading period.

Currency and fuel costs are also expected to hurt, it added.

MyTravel also said the U.K winter trading period has started slowly and is currently being hindered by security concerns. Overall, winter charter holiday bookings are down 11% on 10% less capacity, with the average selling price up 4% , it added.

Merrill Lynch said the results highlight the execution risks of the company's turnaround plan."


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