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kala87 8th Jun 2007 11:58

I totally agree, I had a similar experience at LHR when I arrived on a BA flight from Delhi recently.

The aircraft couldn't pull onto stand due to a defective airbridge, so we had to deplane and use a cement-floored staircase, which some pax had difficulty in negotiating. I know this kind of problem happens at other airports, but over the years I've used LHR many times and problems with airbridges or aircraft parking seem to happen more frequently at LHR. The terminals are definitely showing their age (roll on the T5 opening!) and yes, the toilets are often filthy. Why does BAA love acres of swirly patterned carpet so much? It looks so dated and an eyesore. The signage is appalling, and of course, assumes everyone understands English.

One of my main gripes has always been the bus stations.The T4 bus station has no departure information such as monitor screens, which means bus pax end up asking their equally bemused travellers about which bus leaves from which stop. The central bus station, amazingly, also has no system of monitors near the bus stops with departure information, although departure information is posted on a board in the booking hall. In my experience, drivers and supervisors can be relied on to be over-officious and unsympathetic in their dealings with travellers. And yet we are constantly exorted to use public transport to travel to/from the airport.

Despite this, some airlines do go the extra mile to give very good service at check-in. Full marks to Virgin Atlantic, United, Air-India amongst others. Nil points to BAA though.

STLIM 8th Jun 2007 12:01

Malaysia airpot is the best, which nice and easy to get fresh air....:D

Woofrey 8th Jun 2007 12:17

Agreed, it's certainly not a pleasant experience going through Gatwick these days. The South Terminal is looking very tired now with filthy carpets, broken doors, plenty of black and yellow sticky tape and pidgeon droppings on floors and handrails......and that's just the journey from the car parks - a "first and last impression" !
In my opinion there are a number of factors in all of this :
1. The terminal buildings are virtually at their capacity, allowing no window for proper maintenance, cleaning and development work without creating further disruption and inconvinience.
It's all well and good talking about bigger aircraft and load factors to bump up the throughput on the runway(s), but the terminals can't cope.
2. Money. Of the other airports named, how many are privately owned and demanding of a significant return on investment ? BAAs new owners are in this category, and like all businesses in the UK consider cleaning to be an overhead to be squeezed, many often specifying reduced frequencies and not cleaning above "reachable height" as ways to contain costs.
3. Culture (1). Let's face it, in the UK we think of cleaning and cleaners as some form of underclass, and cannot recognise the value of this service until it is missing. Cleaners generally have the lowest wages and unsociable hours in society. OK, I know the work is labour intensive and does not require a lot of mental agility, but perhaps if they had better pay and conditions they would have some pride in the job which would reflect in the results.
4. Culture (2). Just whos mess is it the cleaners are picking up ? Not theirs that's for sure, so perhaps the travelling public, to some extent, get the environment they create ? It's the travelling public that drop the litter, spit out chewing gum, appear not to be toilet trained, use seats as footstools, spill drinks, leave empty cartons and bottles on tables, etc etc.

Bus429 8th Jun 2007 12:22

It falls to one thing:

Poor management.

Wycombe 8th Jun 2007 15:33

Passed through the North Terminal this week (BA from BLQ). After immigration, we waited by the screens to show us which baggage re-claim to go to downstairs ...and waited ...and waited ...for half an hour, after which I said I'd go downstairs and see what's up.

Got downstairs to see our bags going round-and-round and to hear an announcement (which was not being broadcast upstairs) telling us which reclaim to go to :mad:

It can't be that hard, can it?

Skipness One Echo 13th Jun 2007 15:45

How did the Continental move to the North Terminal go? Anyone know what gates they tend to use ?

Dnomyar19 14th Jun 2007 07:59

I can't comment on how it went, but the stands are mainly those in the 52 - 46 region, with some 757 flights on 61, and 111 on a Monday.

scottishtrollylad 26th Jun 2007 18:44

Qantas at Lgw??
 
Any idea as to why a qantas 747 has just landed into lgw this evening about 1930

flyer55 27th Jun 2007 14:58

It could have been due to the Gas Leak at LHR yesterday

Off Stand 27th Jun 2007 15:03

It says on the Rumours and News forum that the gas leak is today. The only delay we encountered coming into LHR yesterday was a KLM a/c still on the runway when we were on approach, so had a go-around.
The weather was fine at 1900 local too, so not sure why the QF ended up at LGW.

tubby linton 27th Jun 2007 16:12

Does anybody know anything about damage at LGW to three aircraft that coincidently all seem to have happened on the same stand over a couple of days?

cesare.caldi 27th Jun 2007 16:53

Today at LGW South Terminal open the first Yotel.

Yotel is a new hotel chain of capsule hotel japanese style but with luxury features for a cheaper price.

Is possible to take a room only for hours or for entire days

The second Yotel will open before the end of year at LHR, in next years will be open a lot of Yotel in many major airport and city in the world

Dan Air 87 8th Jul 2007 09:58

I was passing through LGW again en route to ABZ last week for a few more days up there. A few questions for the LGW spotters!

1. What was a North American B757 doing there last week?

2. What was the DC10 in there on Thursday afternoon? (I really thought I had one too many drinks from the bar when that came into view)

3. What is happening with TAAG starting their LAD service?

Cheers

Dan

spanishflea 8th Jul 2007 10:47

2. What was the DC10 in there on Thursday afternoon? (I really thought I had one too many drinks from the bar when that came into view)

Subbing for a MYT flight or something similar

3. What is happening with TAAG starting their LAD service?

Not gonna happen anytime soon as they've been banned from the EU

Mr @ Spotty M 8th Jul 2007 10:53

Astraeus have been operating a "N" reg B757 while one of theirs is under repair, might be that one.

Dan Air 87 8th Jul 2007 19:19

Thanks for the info. TAAG not starting the LAD service means that I will to go out to LAD via CDG with Air France unless they are banned by the Angolan's. One of the crew on my BA flight last week mentioned that there was a private Il 62 in the other week for a few days. Can anyone confirm?

Finally, the security is as you would expect. If after you have got through security then you have the shops and eating which at the North terminal is pretty rough. For an international airport, the choice is awful.

spanishflea 8th Jul 2007 20:26

The Angolans have said they're going to ban all EU carriers but I don't think they've actualy gone through with it just yet...

Charlie Roy 18th Jul 2007 16:15

New Easyjet route
 
Gatwick - Lisbon

airhumberside 18th Jul 2007 16:41

Wonder if Monarch Scheduled will stay on the route now or not?

TartinTon 18th Jul 2007 21:02

Wonder if TAP will seeing as Monarch have 60% market share :ok:


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