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'Well if you don't like, there is a boat in the morning' as they say in these parts. Sadly it's broke at the moment and only going at half speed;)

Well, I am flying Manx2 from LBA with a friend this coming Tuesday so hope the fog has lifted by then!

Have noticed the timekeeping of the LBA services has improved markedly over the past week or so. Hope this is kept up!

According to the local paper today, Manx2 is set to apply for a IOM-LHR route afetr its survey showed that is what the public wanted:}. Any reports of pigs flying :E

no pigs...but poss some jetstreams?

Props into LHR?
 

Can't see anything smaller than an RJ of some sort being allowed into LHR these days.
On that subject, are there any regular scheduled prop services still operating in & out of LHR at the moment??:)

KLM F50's
 

KLM still use F50 on EIN/LHR service

Also on the Rotterdam service too.

You know, its not that hard for new operators to get a slot for LHR, and I dont think it even costs that much. There have been a spate of new airlines starting up in the last few years relatively unrestricted, Etihad, Bellview, Air Sahara, Jet Airways, and Qatar all started their services relatively recently.

For Manx2 to get a single lunchtime slot would not be so ridiculous, however it would have the obvious disadvantage of not being particularly attrctive for connections.

Unless you are acquiring a slot in the "grey market" from another carrier, the slot itself shouldn't cost you anything. Obviously the landing fees, handling charges etc. are another matter.
ACL, the company providing the slot coordination service, has a very good online system here where you can see the availability of slots at any major UK/Irish airport (plus some others). So for example you can see that in Summer 06, on a Monday at LHR, the only consistent period where arrival and departure slots are available is after 2000Z (i.e. 2100LT) - unlikely to be attractive. Of course if you are a long-haul carrier willing (and able) to schedule differing times on different days of the week, you may be able to piece a schedule together, and of course if you are applying for slots in advance of the deadlines for the forthcoming season, you have a better chance of getting something... but a slot pair at the same time for five or six or seven days in the week at LHR would still be a challenge to achieve for a new entrant!

PAXBoy posting from his mother's house in Castletown, after riding up from LTN yesterday with BACON

I think that it is very sensible of Manx2 to use this form of free publicity. they know that the chances of being able to operate a steady daily service - even one rotation a day - is preactically zero. But, as a way to get into the local papers and promote themselves as a company that want to give a good service to the island.

Anybody developing new routes (or even re-opening old ones) off the Isle of man should be welcomed. Providing they do it with a modicum of common sense, unlike a certain airline who went balls-out to copy the old manx Airlines and who are now back to core routes.

I think wait and see has to be the watchword here. Although theres nothing like a few good rumours to keep the adrenalin flowing :8

skiddy

If the LET was a bit small for any LHR slots they might come by, Manx2 might consider snapping up the ATP which has resided at Ronaldsway since Emerald's demise. There was an advert in the local rag last week looking for tenders for its sale. I'm sure theere are a few crews still on the Island with the type on their paperwork too.....

Manx2 are going for LHR.....
 

Item on Manx Radio website saying Manx2 are applying for 3 (presumably pairs) of LHR slots....

http://www.manxradio.com/readItemBus...&cate=Business

Good luck!

ATP rider, the only place that ATP will be going to will be the scrap yard!.
I would say you would get more money for it there!

A few people need to get a reality check on this thread.

here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Another travel agent trying to market itself as an airline!!!!!!! at least when euromanx where doing it it had real aircraft!

What is the JAA definition of an Airline please? My guess is that you need to have your own AOC. Has manx2 got an AOC? I think not!

If any REAL Airline thought that there was a chance of any LHR slots then BA, Eastern, arran and dare I say Euro Manx would be jumping in there big time to get a slice of the action!

And as for using the Crown Dependency bit saying that the IOM is a special case is a load of CRAP! So what, all the IOM is is a Tiny Rock in the middle of nowhere with aload of alcoholics clining to it.

Could u really see a Let410 at LHR, come on.

You have to ask yourselves, how can any organisation (travel agent) make any money selling cheap tickets (39 quid) make a profit? sure is the right way to bankrupt yourself quicker!:D

If Manx2 gets LHR slots i will turn round and bit my own fat arse, and im a big lad!

And remember this! I WANT NEVER GETS!
:ok:

GMIMA...

Thank god someone with sense has spoken on this thread.
I'll open another beer content knowing that some else thinks the same as me.

Skiddy, you need to get back to the mainland sir....spending too much time on the rock!

Funnily enough, I had cause to ask a Man from the Ministry this very question, not three weeks ago.

His answer - which GMIMA might recognise - is that an airline is defined as an organisation that transports passengers and/or cargo for a financial consideration AND which has an Operating License so to do.

No Operating License means no airline.

So Manx2 - no, you are not an airline. Sorry.

The arguement for a crown dependency which is also in the north west region to get special treatment for heathrow slots is a tad weak when this same place has access to London by air with Gatwick, Luton, and London City. It had Stanstead as well but there were not enough people using it for it to work. With BA giving up Luton and the other Luton operator driopping to one flight a day' the London Market is not what it was.

With 4 flights to LGW , 3 to LCY and 1 to LTN - this crown dependency is well served for access to London

3 peak time slots a day IOM LHR as well - something would have to give.

Check out the IOM web site passenger figures and see all the empty seats that are not filled every day.

http://www.iom-airport.com/lib/docs/...august2006.pdf

publicity stunt pure and simple if they ever got a LHR slot it would be sold on in a nano second.

What would cause the delay? :}

Remember, 'somebody' once said that there's no such thing as bad publicity. If, and its a long shot, I agree, they did pull it off with the backing of the Manx government ('cos that's what it would need) the euros would be crying all the way to the receivers. :=