Air Berlin´s problems was that they didn´t advertise the route enough, just als V Bird did.

Regarding Jet2s flight fromMAN....
First of all, its not only the MJV ALC and AGPs that are full.
Nearly every flight i check in for is full these days. in the last few weeks ive done FCO BUD AMS AGP ALC PMI to name a few and i can assure u the pax figure is NEVER below about 120
The first 757 flights started this week and thy look busy. The ALC and PMI te other day both went out with 228 which is full.
Regarding new routes and listening to crew... i wouldnt believe it. At jet2 even the crew dont find out till everyone else, they only way we find out about new routes is to keep updated on Jet2
We have heard rumours of 767s JFK SFB BOS and many many more so untill it happens and ur on the flight I wouldnt believe it. That applies to everything in aviation and not just Jet2 this the one of the worst industries for gossip and the rumour network.
I can see expansion at MAN. Leeds is a well established base and they continue to grow; Jet2 are always on the look out and im sure new routes will come along soon.

Also with the 757s in MAN for the winter the AGP might be operated by a 757 so daily is not needed, so techincally not a decrease in capacity.

To say LS is only busy on 3 routes is crazy talk. Working for MYT, we check in next to them and they always have queues throughout much of the day. They wouldn't keep operating routes out of MAN if they weren't doing well. A reduction down to 3 x weekly AGP during the winter months is hardly shocking stuff. The Costa del Sol is not a massive winter destination compared to the likes of the Canaries and after all, ZB reduce their MAN - AGP frequency from 3 x daily to just daily and not an eye lid is batted!

flyGlobespan to start scheduled MAnchester to Toronto services this winter, tickets on sale now.

OOI
When I left work at 2pm, Manch was [only] 400ish movements down on last year [for May]. Also the Flybee had 70pax to Northwich, sorry Norwich.
watp,iktch

Jet 2 have anounced MAN-TFS 3x weekly from 30th Oct.

anyone know of any decent jobs going at Manchester at the mo??

Im working as cabin crew based there now... Im applying for cabin crew at a London base next year and thinking maybe a summer season not in the sky is a good idea, but want to stay within the industry.

Cheers guys x

bmi A330's @ T3?
 

Evening all

Just wondering where bmi's A330's are plonked at T3 since the move last week?

I read in the press release that they were using gate 49 and 55, but BA have used 49 for the last few years, and AA usualy have gate 55

Any ideas?

BMI A330s use 55 and 44
AA 757/767s use 54 and 53, occasionally 48
BA 767 use 49
GT 320s use the spaces left, along with WW 737s

If rumours are to be believed, AA are to start some new services soon, possibly Dallas and/or Los Angeles?? There could be space if BD move all long haul ops to LHR if the Bermuda agrement gets tweaked.

gayrugbybloke

My word! Queuing for my ORD flight in 4 weeks time will be fun if its on Gate 44!

elgan

It will be either gate 44 or gate 55 as they are the only 2 stands suitable for a A330.

£25 million make-over for Terminal 1

Catering and retail outlets in Terminal 1 are to be given a £25 million overhaul to attract more big names and extend the choice of brands and products available for passengers.

The ground-breaking redevelopment programme is scheduled to begin from September so the first phase can be completed in time for the start of next year’s main holiday season.

The aim is to create a much more welcoming and stress-free environment which will encourage passengers to relax while exploring a wider range of top quality stores, restaurants and bars before boarding flights.

Passengers have helped to shape the redesign by telling us what they want and need in response to customer satisfaction surveys.

Artists impressions of how the make-over will look have been sent to major retailers and caterers to give them the opportunity to get involved. While high-street retailers are feeling the pinch, airport-based stores and sales outlets are enjoying a growth in retail income and so interest in the scheme is predicted to be brisk.

Retail re-development of T1, M.A. Plc strike again ?! What a load of tosh. Stopppppp all spending on major projects, (Just because pax numbers have slipped back a couple of percent 2004 levels)but hey lets throw 25m at retail again ( Third time retailing has been re-developed in ten years), and say its to help passengers have a more pleasant & less stessfull experience! The way to make it less stressfull is to allow them a hassle free throughput from the time of check-in to boarding, something which is only a dream at present. ( What a joy Amsterdam is compared to MANTAT. Case in point.
I arrived at check-in the other day two hours before the flight,at 0530 to spend twenty five minutes in the queue. Only 1 hour thirty-five until dep. time now. The next hurdle was security where it took 35 minutes to complete the task, after winding round the lovely queing system. ( Why does water in a clear plastic bottle have to pass through the x-ray machine??) Only one hour to go now. Got to have something to eat as I missed breakfast, joined the breakfast queue and ate a bacon sandwich. only 40 minutes left now. Time to visit those oh so sweet smelling toilets!! Oh no, on turning the corner into Bog alley, the Urine monster has struck again and left his trail of foul odour once more in the place. Do the urinals ever flush or is it just once every half hour due to water conservation?- ( After washing one's hands how do you move to the dryers, sometimes twenty feet away whilst carrying a jacket and a bag? Oh it appears my hands have dried themselves on the said jacket!!). Leave Bog-hell and look at the screens, which say proceed to gate. Oh well so much for my retail shopping experience. I really must arrive four hours ahead of the flight next time. On second thoughts naaahhh, I'll have my breakfast at home and get there with just an hour and fifteen to go, stuff the shopping, far less hassle that way!!!! ( May still have to visit those toilets though! Do Boots sell nose clips?)
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I'm with you Adola69.
Who wants more shops, when after the check in queues & then security queues, there simply isn't time to shop !....and no, the answer is not to have 4 hour check-ins. The MAN airport experience ( T1 anyway),is often longer than the flight you are going on.
If they want to improve the passenger experience, then get T1 all on one level for a start, get walkways escaltors & lifts working, reduce obscene securty queues, do something with the airside toilets & improve the ramp infrastruture so you are not sat on an aircraft on pier charlie, waiting 20 odd minutes for push back. I think that would improve things for passengers rather than a new Burtons.

Exactly, I have a distant memory of MAN being efficient and easy to use. Now woth all the hassle I can't be bothered to use the shops. Time for a return to getting the basics right.

shops = revenue
security = costs
check in = costs

Just read on airliner.net that the Libyan now has a start date of 18th June, can anyone confirm this?

G-I-B

I did warn you.

Some very sensible comments here. Get the basics right then worry about the shops. Apart from the bars, cafes and the basics like WHS and Boots, most of the poncy shops are empty most of the time anyway.

Pax figs down therefore build more shops? What about finding out why figs are down and tackle that first? Customer service? Usability? Apron condition? Capacity? Nah, not enough shops. Obvious really.

Time for the fat controller to leave.

G.I.B.

Libyan shown as op days 4&7 Dept. trip.10.15 arr man 13.10

Dept. man 14.15 arr trip 19.30
A/c A320
www.aaco.org/schedule
regards
peakp

Unfortunately more like:

Security (queues) = pax go to another airport.
Check-in (queues) = pax go to another airport
Shops = (because of queues) pax can't be bothered with them, and they are mostly too downmarket anyway, all that's missing in T1 is a branch of Poundsaver.

Autoglide I don't think there is a problem with the quality of the shops in T1 unless Monsoon, Cotton Traders, Waterstones and the designer store next door are downmarket.:confused:

The problem is the appalling security queues, B pier, the never working travellators on C pier, the shambles that is the satellite and the ramp congestion. The best thing that could happen to T1 would be for it to be torn down and rebuilt. The airport does not need yet more retail.

I believe thats the longer term plan.

I've never had a problem with T1. I like it. I've been in check-in and security queues in Manchester, Liverpool, Los Angeles, Jersey, Harare, Malaga, Melbourne (always horrendous), Sydney and probably Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy:rolleyes:

I too remember when one could actually quite agree with all the hype about MAN being amongst the world's best. I guess that was about mid-nineties? What has gone so wrong?

A tale of two cities.

I flew from Liverpool on 25th May and went through security at about 6am. There was a long queue which was snaking around the lines and moving. When I got to the search area there were 4 x-ray machines and frames operating and I counted just over 30 security staff. Total time waiting was 7 minutes.

Fast forward to 27th May and I was flying from Manchester's Terminal 3 and went through security at about 5:30am. The queue (2 lines) stretched back to the bridge to the car park by the VLM check-in desk. Eventually got to the search area and there were just 2 x-ray machines and frames operating and just over half the staff that Liverpool had. Total time waiting was 35 minutes. Although at least that was better than Heathrow's Terminal 4 but don't get me on to that.

Terminal 3 used to be a nice terminal to fly from until they added BMI Baby. The check-in queues were horrendous as well.

My view is Terminal 3 is completley different to T1 and T2 at MAN, everything seems much faster and it is nice and small, which is alot better.

i know its a like an unwanted child now, but how is the bmi ORD route working out for MAN?

New Routes from Manchester
 

Manchester A/port. have announced Three new routes

Libyan Arab Airlines to Tripoli starting next Sunday 2xper week A320

Astraeus to Cape Verde start date in November Thursday 1xweek 737!

and as stated elsewhere Globespan to Toronto from November 1xweek 767

also stated Globespan are looking at L.A. (and or) San Fran.

Regards
peakp

bmibaby winter schedule released

Seem to be similar frequencies to last winter. Good to see Perpignan continuing (5 times a week)

As expected Newquay dropped, replaced by Geneva

Hi does anybody know what short haul routes Monarch's A300/A330/B767 are operating from MAN?

thanks

First Libyan Airlines flight to Manchester has arrived

G-I-B

A330-B767 look to be on long haul
A300-doing the europe sun circuit on charters. On Saturday afternoon one is on the ZB run to PMI and I think on Sunday ZB to Faro.

Regards
peakp

Mrs 1DC and i went through T1 at 0530 on 31/5 travelling on the early MON to Alicante, check in was swift and painless and security looked busy but only took about ten minutes. Airside was pretty full. The thing that shocked me was the smoking room, it was packed with smokers and many children. it was a shame to look through the window and see children sitting inside holding a coat or jumper to their faces. Surely children should be banned from such places..

I do agree with children being in a smoking area it's not really fair on them. But it really comes down to the parents rather than introducing a ban. The parents should be more considerate of their children's health (Bit of a hypocrate - i'm a smoker). Shouldn't be a problem for much longer anyway with the blanket ban of smoking in public places........:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: lol

Have the World's Best Airport's passenger figures improved since they started getting rid of staff?

How is T3 now with the increase in pax?

I'm flying bmi to ORD next week, and was wondering how packed is airside and landside now?

I'll be aiming to get there early to TRY and miss the queue for both Chicago and Antigua on Friday! :\

Elgan why not check in the night before? Then you can turn up at -60?

lexxity

Would love to lexxity, but we live 2:30hrs away in north wales so really don't see us doing 2 round trips to MAN in 12 hours sadly,and no reasonable rates of accomodation around MAN either ah well

Route news - Winter 06/07
 

Some changes for Winter 06/07

Air Berlin reduce Hamburg from 6 to 3 per week
Sky Europe - no Salzburg flights
Hapag Lloyd Express - increase Koln to 6 per week, daily ex.Sat

Playamar2

elgan, i think lexxity was talking about BMI online check-in.
Just go to their website and click on Online check-in in manage your booking.
Dead easy! :)