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kcockayne 23rd Nov 2016 10:28

Well, Gurnard, we seem to be pretty much in agreement about AUR, it's management & the States ownership - which in some respects was a "good idea" when it originally happened i.e. protect the Gatwick slots. But, it has evolved into a situation where the AUR management seem to be pretty much divorced , & cushioned from, reality. I warned of this potential development when the States bought the airline. Although the States don't own Condor, there appear to be parallels there ! It seems to me that both companies are somewhat "playing at being transport companies" without facing up to their responsibilities. Certainly, some very bad mistakes have been made &, although Condor have been forced to face up to reality, AUR still seems to live in "cloud cuckoo land" !

kcockayne 23rd Nov 2016 11:45


Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers (Post 9587273)
Over the past months I have enjoyed, somewhat immensely, the sagas of AUR and the Do228's ... I hasten to add that in a previous life I worked with DHC6's and by comparison the Do228 is a 'sports' model.

Incompetences, mistakes, have been going on since aviation, indeed, life, began, the only difference now being, in the 21st century, that we have the world wide web whereas armchair enthusiasts believe they have a right to demand airline directors to become answerable on such a rumour network as PPRuNe.

As I've said I've enjoyed immensely the sagas of, particularly, the Do228 but may I respectfully suggest that if any of you have a genuine, fare paying, grievance to grind with AUR then you perform it through AUR's recognised grievance procedure(s) and, by all means, feel free to post the outcome of your complaint(s) here. :)

I don't think that I have any such rights, Harry. However, if I was a Guernsey taxpayer I would very much believe that I did have that right. But, I am a Guernseyman with a lifelong interest & professional employment within the air transport industry. As such, I would very much like to know the answers to all these questions. I do believe that I have a right to ask them & to question AUR's actions, & inactions, on this forum. If not, what on earth is the reason for its existence ?

Gurnard 24th Nov 2016 07:14

Another aborted flight:

This time GR200 GCI-ACI operated by G-SAYE has returned to GCI. Is the reason technical? G-SAYE was doing further test flights yesterday evening.

Gurnard 24th Nov 2016 08:11

Whatever the problem, it can't have been too serious. G-SAYE departed again after about 30 mins on the ground.

Mentioning such items of news is not a grievance to grind with AUR but is simply a means of keeping the aviation community informed of happenings.

Hermite 24th Nov 2016 08:30

I wonder if it was just weather conditions on Alderney. Windfinder.com is showing gusts of close to 40 knots, North Easterly.

xtypeman 24th Nov 2016 10:42

It is possible but not for cross wind limits but for engine start. I seam to recall there is a maximum wind speed to start engines somewhere in the range 35kts to 40kts on the Dornier 228

Hermite 24th Nov 2016 10:46

I thought there was a cross wind limit of 20 knots at ACI due to problems with the runway - see Flights into Alderney are further restricted « Guernsey Press

Hermite 29th Nov 2016 19:03

G-RLON
 
Just curious as to why G-RLON operating GR261 ACI-GCI this afternoon held overhead for half an hour.

Ayline 29th Nov 2016 22:35

G-RLON
 
Runway blocked at Guernsey Airport this afternoon by 2-RICH I believe which suffered a burst tyre on landing.

Gurnard 1st Dec 2016 07:45

Dorniers

Following an extensive airtest and return to service on 23 November, G-SAYE appears to have had further airtests on 29 & 30 November. It now has an EASA ARC dated 30/11/2017. Are there ongoing issues with this aircraft? It isn't in regular service.

Meanwhile the "reliable" G-OAUR has not flown since 14 November. Its EASA ARC is dated 22/12/2016. Is it undergoing work relating to an updated C of A?

cobopete 8th Dec 2016 13:35

Dorniers
 
GSAYE on stand at 1430 having flown scheduled service and GOAUR rolled out in front of AN hangar.
1625.....GOAUR is currently en route ACI to SOU as GR565.......back in service.

Gurnard 8th Dec 2016 20:31

Thanks for that. I also happened to catch sight of them both together on the webcam. Wow, two Dorniers in service on the same day! :ooh:
Still no news of G-LGIS. To have been absent for 3 months.... what can be going on? A massive rebuild - or just being parked quietly?

cobopete 10th Dec 2016 09:21

GLGIS
 
GEP today states 2 Tri to be retired by Xmas and GLGIS to be in Germany for work on wings. Article also states the schedule can be flown by 1.5 aircraft.......we shall see.

kcockayne 10th Dec 2016 09:31

Thanks for that Pete. Well, AUR appear to be slowly getting there with the Dornier. I'll keep my eyes open for any further twists in the story !

Geo73 10th Dec 2016 16:00

Two of the three remaining Trislanders are going to be retired at the end of next week.

planedrive 10th Dec 2016 19:25

Is the GCI - LTN service still planned for next summer?

Gurnard 16th Dec 2016 13:45

Trislanders
Another twist in the tale (tail?) ..... It now seems that G-RLON has had a reprieve. The CAA has been notified of an Open Application for an ARC 15A ISSUE (RECOMMENDED) dated 15th December. RLON is currently in ACI and appears to be back in service.
It still seems that G-BDTO is flying its final few hours, due for retirement on Sunday. This could mean that two Tris will continue in service - unless G-BEVT is in line for retirement.

Hermite 21st Dec 2016 16:47

G-COBO
 
it looks as though G-COBO has aborted its flight to MAN as is returning to GCI. I wonder why.

RPMcMurphy 22nd Dec 2016 00:00


Originally Posted by Hermite (Post 9616697)
it looks as though G-COBO has aborted its flight to MAN as is returning to GCI. I wonder why.

Icing issues.

radiosutch 22nd Dec 2016 17:10

If you look at the flight stats on FR24, it dropped 900 feet, went up 1300 feet. Speed varied between 260Kts to 174kts, and the heading swung round by 30 degrees all in about a minute.
Sounds like a pretty scary upset.


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