Does anyone know more about the big announcement supposed to be made tomorrow, with the date being quite deliberate? CO to EWR has been discussed before, or do Y2 have desires on more links into SFB? Considering that LPL has seen most growth on the leisure market, my money would be on the latter, but either would be very interesting, if that's what is happening.

Maybe its to repackage the airport back to Liverpool Airport, more or less, five (?) years to the day from it being named Liverpool John Lennon Airport?

Or maybe its the unveiling of the Masterplan?

dwlpl

My money would be on Masterplan announcement;)

The news is that Globespan is to fly daily Liverpool to New York (Newark) daily from May 2007.

Beat me to it! Just seen it on their site.

OK, right airline, wrong destination. New York is a huge market, but much of CO's traffic is for onward connections, so is the plan here to tap into a fair slice of MAN's pie too? Daily is ambitious, but then again so was daily to SFB from GLA. How much positioning is going to be needed to support long haul routes from MAN, LPL and GLA, or will they have 3 a/c by then?

"Maybe its to repackage the airport back to Liverpool Airport, more or less, five (?) years to the day from it being named Liverpool John Lennon Airport?"

DWPL, I think that the Lennon connection will have been a useful factor in helping attract more business from the other side of the pond.

The 757 that they will use on the Newark flight from LPL will be dedicated to that route looking at the times and with it being daily.

Agreed but the CAA want all this type of rebranding stopped.

I don't think that's entirely true. There is a difference between using 'branded' names when using radio transmissions, etc as opposed to 'proper' names which has the potential to cause confusion to those not familiar with the name change. That should in no way affect the commercial aspects of rebranding an airport to raise its profile to the travelling public.

The CAA have said that for airports such as Liverpool John Lennon, they will be referred to in all official CAA correspondence by its official title, not its branded title.

Liverpool - Orlando could be on the cards, it was reported in last nite's Liverpool Echo that if Liverpool - New york is a success, Globespan have hinted that Orlando could be next, also reported is that Globespan are more than happy with sales on new routes to Tenerife & Prague.;)

Tonight we are on the eve of this weeks announcement.

All will be revealed tomorrow at 10am re the Masterplan.

Any news on the announcement yet? I havn't seen anything.

I would have thought a daily flight to NYC is highly ambitious, when faced with MAN's double daily from CO, daily by BA and DL and PK frequencies on top! It might have been wise to operate the route 5x weekly with a 2x weekly to Toronto, or Boston even. Even so, they seem like a switched on airline, choosing its markets very sensibly in my opinion.

LPL has been screaming out for a LCC like GSM. They will surely be successful in operating some slightly longer leisure routes, such as Cyprus, Greece and the Canaries, which are beyond the traditional reach of EZ and FR. Hopefully we will see Orlando soon. Good luck to the airline.

The draft Masterplan consists of;

Terminal facilities to handle 8.3million pax by 2015, 12.3million pax by 2030, currently just gone through 5million pax MAT. Main terminal extension (with piers also) with finger extensions both to the east and west of the main terminal building.

Runway extended to 9022' and to include starter strips at both ends. Parallel taxiway to the north of runway lengthened to include the new runway extension. New parallel taxiway to the south.

Apron extension will be practically the full length of the extended runway. New apron to the south of the new southern taxiway.

New cargo centre (named World Cargo Centre) forecast to handle 220,000 tonnes to be built to the south of the runway. It must be remembered that the airports owners, Peel, also now owns the Port of Liverpool (MDHC) and expects to see greater synergy between the airport and seaport.

New airport only access road to link into the Ford Road/A5300 Knowsley Expressway (this is the continuation of the M57).

Costs is said to be £600million.

Why would you need a parallel taxiway to the south?

Point 5,
Parallel taxiway to the south would be needed because,

S'pose I should take in what I read! Thanks!
No further questions...

Forgot to post that yesterday, 12th July, the first revenue flights of the first Liverpool based easyJet Airbus 319.

The aircraft positioned in Wednesday evening from Hamburg Finkenwerder.

Eastern Europe
 

Ryanair have said that in their next expansion at Liverpool they we introduce a number of new eastern European routes.

http://iccheshireonline.icnetwork.co...name_page.html

Also heard that Liverpool - Brussels Charleroi will be reintroduced but possibly in the next expansion of Charleroi (2007), thus using a Brussels based aircraft.

If Ryanair want to join the dots, then this leaves very few airports in Central and Eastern Europe that they don't already serve from LPL- Brno, Balaton and Bratislava, plus a few extra cities in Poland- I doubt there is enough Czech or Hungarian workers in the northwest to provide the VFF traffic that LPL attracts on its Poland routes. I think Bratislava could work, due to its proximity to Vienna, but Wizzair have already indicated that they will serve BTS from next year. This leaves only Poland, which must be close to saturated with 3 carriers, serving Warsaw, Krakow, Katowice, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Poznan.

I never seem to understand FR logic (how the hell can they make Tampere, Alghero and Ancona work?!), but surely it would make more sense to serve Frankfurt, Brussels, Eindhoven etc first before launching more routes to eastern europe which don't attract business travellers so much as lower yeilding returning-home Polish workers.

Milano Bergamo
 

What? Like Ryanair are axing Liverpool to Milan apparently (see Ryanair thread), but then they still fly Liverpool - Ancona for example :confused: How weird is that?

I would expect LPL - BGY to be reintroduced in the next FR expansion at LPL in 2007.

For completeness:

Ryanair have now loaded the times into the system for the Liverpool/Milan Bergamo route for the winter.

The times are the same as now and fly four times per week using a BGY based aircraft.

Ryanair selling Grenoble and Salzburg in the Daily Post today, when where these announced? Nothing on their site. Saying they start Dec 12th

elgan
Liverpool to Grenoble and Salzburg??
Funny you mention that, because I noticed in the "Find lowest fares" (link along top right of the Ryanair homepage) section today that when Liverpool is selected then both Grenoble and Salzburg are indeed proposed as destinations, although not of yet bookable. Maybe tomorrow ;)

FR to Grenoble and Salzburg
 

Grenoble and Salzburg are now bookable on the Ryanair website from December 19th -2-4-6- :ok:

(What routes have been reduced to allow for these two new ski routes?)

The Liverpool to Bergerac service will be dropped for the winter from 4th November and services from Liverpool to Granada, Oslo Torp, Pisa and Reus will all be reduced from 7 to 4 flights a week for the winter.

It is expected that Ryanair will announce another two or three routes from Liverpool for the winter months.

Ryanair winter schedule at LPL
 

Ametyst

Ya Dublin is also reduced for winter: get Aer Lingus out of the way then enjoy the monopoly :suspect:

These ski routes start December 19th so I would have been expecting a route to operate 1234567 during winter up until mid-December, and only then be reduced to 1-3-5-7 for the rest of the winter.
The entire winter scheduling of the Liverpool aircraft is not so clear yet.

Using another database the FlyGlobespan Tenerife South continues on into the 2007 summer season.

The daily flights deps LPL at 1200 and arr back at LPL 2135 using a 737-800.

dwlpl
 

do you know a/c for STN TFS summer 07
its a 737 now but was told poss bigger a/c in summer

For completeness;

The flyGlobespan Toronto Hamilton service starts Sunday 6th May 2007 and runs to at least the end of October 2007.

GSM190
Toronto Hamilton Dep2020 (Sunday)
Liverpool Arr0825 (Monday)

GSM189
Liverpool Dep1340 (Monday)
Toronto Hamilton Arr1640 (Monday)

The flights, both inbound and outbound, finish and originate at Stansted.

Its listed as a 737-600 but the rumour on here is that its to be a 757. It maybe the 757 but every route flyGlobespan has is rumoured to be a 757!

It will not be a B757 for TFS - the B757 will operate the STN-YHM flights S07.

It is more than likely to be a B736 or B733.

There is a news item thats saying that FlyGlobespan is thinking af switching its yet-to-be-launched Liverpool to New York-Newark flight to serve New York JFK airport.

Must be a strong possibility if this has been made public.

Today, with the basing of aircraft #6 and #7, sees the latest batch of routes (11 over the next few days or so) to be started by Ryanair out of Liverpool.

There's going to be another two new routes starting in mid December which will give the airline 34 routes out of Liverpool.

NB there are in fact 8*737-800's on station at Liverpool, the extra one covering for potential delays resulting from LPL's runway re-construction thats taking place betwen early October and late March next year.

Has been official for sometime LPL - NYC now operating into JFK.

Wow, i did'nt think Ryanair would leave an aircraft just sitting around!:}
Fair play to them though if they are, at least they would be ensuring passengers aren't too badly affected by delays caused by the airport.:D

Looks like Air Malta are trying to get in before FR/EZY do with a new route from Liverpool starting 4th May 2007.

The twice weekly flight to Liverpool will operate every Monday and Friday.

The Monday flight KM156/7 to Liverpool will depart Malta International Airport at 0700hrs arriving in Liverpool at 0935hrs. The return flight, Liverpool - Malta, departs Liverpool at 1025hrs arriving in Malta at 1455hrs.

Friday’s flight departs Malta at 1645hrs arriving in Liverpool at 1920hrs. The return flight Liverpool - Malta departs Liverpool at 2010hrs arriving in Malta at 0040hrs.

Hmmmm:hmm: , only a matter of time ,I think, before RYR react to this move!:ooh:

Some passenger numbers noticed on flights taken over the last day or two;
22nd Oct FR1842 Liverpool/Aberdeen had 165 passengers
24th Oct FR1847 Inverness/Liverpool had 35 passengers (Inbound Liverpool flight to Inverness brought in 131 passengers)

That outward Inverness route looks a tad dodgy:\ , inbound service is a bit better though:D .

Reports of a small light aircarft crashed at the end of the runway at LPL. Pilot and passenger are ok. Flights diverting to EMA