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MarkD 6th Jun 2005 16:01

Did Bombardier offer CRJ-900? As flybe is a Q400 customer I would think they would be hoping for the business. Unfortunately the C110/130 is too far in the distance for this order, if they ever find an engine for it that is.

jfriday 6th Jun 2005 16:44

This is an interesting article with regards to Flybe at SOU. It states that they are to base 5 195s at SOU.

http://www.theecho.co.uk/hampshire/s...EWS_BUSI0.html

johnwalton 6th Jun 2005 16:56

From Flybe press release :


Flybe, one of the top five European low cost airlines, today confirmed a US $950million order to purchase up to 26 Embraer 195 aircraft (14 firm / 12 options). As a result Flybe will become the global launch customer for this member of the Embraer 170/195 family, and comes hard on the heels of Flybe’s 2004 announcement of the $1billion purchase of up to 61 Q400’s (41 firm / 20 options).

Stan Sted 6th Jun 2005 17:02

Are they still waiting for operational approval for London City Airport?

CentreFix25 6th Jun 2005 17:47

It's great looking back at some of the earlier posts. FF must be quite smug while some others who think they are in the know obviously aren't.

cmcloughlin 6th Jun 2005 18:05

Ah, I was right:D

Anyway, it will be interesting to see around! Will Manx be getting any of their 143s as they were looking for some I think, not sure though:suspect:

Guern 6th Jun 2005 19:47

Didn't think they would fit in/out of Guernsey are they going to operate with reduced loads?

LTNman 6th Jun 2005 20:37

Flying Fiona wrote

Looks like JF is about to sign for 15 195's.
flybe.com replied

Flying Fiona - Sorry but that's utter tosh, and has caused me to doubt anything "from the inside" you may come up with in the future
Flying Fiona stated

Spoke with the Engineers at BHX today and they have course dates for the 195. Deliveries are being planned for July 2006. An official announcement will be made at the next O/C meeting on 7 and 8 June.
but Nil further replied

You believe the BHX engineers!!!!!!!! im gonna die laughing !
Looks like some people need to eat some humble pie. Well done Flying Fiona:ok:

Devonair 6th Jun 2005 22:20

This is how the news was reported in Flybe's home town:
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/displa...sNodeId=137002

1.2 million passengers through Exeter from Flybe.

Trislander 6th Jun 2005 22:25

Good move by us IMHO. TCAS Fan, I'm sure flybe. would have looked into perfomance for these routes before commiting so much cash!! I've heard anyhow that the engines to be fitted to our a/c are uprated versions of those normally equipped on the 195 that GE have been testing.

How exciting!!! :D :D :D The new livery in the flybe promo pics looks cool too, it looks as though they are finally doing away with the British European branding as in the current logo. :8

Tri :ok:

Trislander 6th Jun 2005 22:35

Hey Dirty Mach,

SOU can accomodate 757's on it's stands so i doubt the 195 will have any parking probs. Sorry to be pedantic but the 195 will hold 6 more pax than our 146-300's which carry a max of 112!! :8

118 pax 4 abreast-that's 30 rows, 10 more than the Q400/146-300!

Tri :ok:

jabird 6th Jun 2005 22:39

Well "leaked" FF.

I always thought this would make more sense than going for the 150 seat market. Looks like my comment in Feb (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=162762) was still "out" by 5.

Are there any bookies taking bets on these things, you would have cleaned up!

Smokie 6th Jun 2005 22:55

Hmmmmm...... Literally a Breath of FRESH Air !:ok:

Trislander 6th Jun 2005 23:09

Smokie,

You mean 'A Breath Of Fresh Airline Thinking' or 'Plane Common Sense'! ;)

Pies 6th Jun 2005 23:26

I think "Doom an Gloom" is a little harsh. Just a little bit miffed about not getting Airbus/ Boeing! :{ However, the Emb195 is .82, not to sure about service ceiling, and does look like a nice aircraft, so hopefully see you boys high above the clouds for once, instead of bouncing through the tops!!

:cool:

satis 5 6th Jun 2005 23:45

dirty mach - 118 pax is 20 more than the 146-200.
not all the 146 in service are 300s.

i think its the right aircraft for us.
were getting head up displays!? cat3 operations?
18mins to 350 FL cant be bad.

http://www.embraer.com/english/conte...00/default.asp

a nice expansion of capacity i think,
from the following available seats:
bhx 2.1million
bhd 1.95 million
sou 2.2
and all the other bases too. (whose capacities werent listed, sorry)

that'll not do some of our competitors? any favours.
at a particular base,
we already have 400 more seats than them, whilst having less staff.
(and undoubtidly more lean, pay+ conditions)

this'll take us closer to 500 more seats (now theres a clue)
that is if we havent taken the place over, lock stock +two smoking order books.

satis 5 7th Jun 2005 00:10

sou to go from 1.5m to 3million (mike R)?
think they're going to need more than 1 extra jet there,
even if they all are 195's eventualy.

going to double the night stoppers of both types?

Smokie 7th Jun 2005 00:14

Trilander, I mean "Exactly" what I said in the last post.;)

MarkD 7th Jun 2005 00:38

Didn't realise you could pack so many into a 195. It will be interesting if the rumoured A318 LCY certification goes ahead and E195 doesn't!

overcast 7th Jun 2005 05:42

I wonder, that as FlyBe mention Guernsey will be getting 195s, does this mean that they know that the runway will be extended.

4800 feet seems a bit short for the 195.


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