Flybe Purchase EMB195 (merged)
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Flybe Purchase EMB195
Yes Flybe are at it again!
Looks like JF is about to sign for 15 195's. All has been agreed in principle and it's down to the nitty gritty.
I can tell you that the reason behind the selection of such a bizzare choice of aircraft. It simply boils down to salary.
Jim French has been quoted as saying that he wants to keep down salarys to pilots and by introducing equipment that nobody else operates will do just that.
I think the selection of this type will bite back very hard indeed.
Good luck Flybe
Looks like JF is about to sign for 15 195's. All has been agreed in principle and it's down to the nitty gritty.
I can tell you that the reason behind the selection of such a bizzare choice of aircraft. It simply boils down to salary.
Jim French has been quoted as saying that he wants to keep down salarys to pilots and by introducing equipment that nobody else operates will do just that.
I think the selection of this type will bite back very hard indeed.
Good luck Flybe
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Flying Fiona - Sorry but that's utter tosh, and has caused me to doubt anything "from the inside" you may come up with in the future. Jim has never been quoted making any such comments about pilots salaries.
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I would be very cautious of what exactly you post on a public discussion board. Negotiations between flybe and aircraft manufacturers are supposed to be confidential! Please refer to your duly signed contract. We are monitoring your posts closely as you appear to have the objective of hindering to the airline's development and strategy.
I would be very cautious of what exactly you post on a public discussion board. Negotiations between flybe and aircraft manufacturers are supposed to be confidential! Please refer to your duly signed contract. We are monitoring your posts closely as you appear to have the objective of hindering to the airline's development and strategy.
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Such nonsense from alleged "professionals"...
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If this is the case EMB must be giving the aircrafts away. At best the 190 is untested and the few flying in the EU can provide little info on long term suitablity / reliability and robustness. I find it strange that your company would opt for this plane without seeing a lot more in the service of others. The success of its bedfellows 135/145 is mainly to do with cheap purchase at the outset, most Uk operators had a lot of teething troubles with the first batch which has taken some 5 years to sort out.
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Dicky Dick!
I think not. You are full of your name sake!! Ha Ha!!
Its a Rumour network. I'm only repeating a leak from the management and there aint nothing wrong in that.
There is a mole in every company and Flybe are no different. Get some info from yours so I can monitor your posts. Ha!!!!!
I think not. You are full of your name sake!! Ha Ha!!
Its a Rumour network. I'm only repeating a leak from the management and there aint nothing wrong in that.
There is a mole in every company and Flybe are no different. Get some info from yours so I can monitor your posts. Ha!!!!!
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There is one sorry excuse for "management" that I have had first hand experience of with his indiscretions, leaks, and down right blabber mouthing.
The best way to deal with these types is to feed them plausible misinformation, then sit back and watch them wipe the egg of their weasley faces.
Works for me.
The best way to deal with these types is to feed them plausible misinformation, then sit back and watch them wipe the egg of their weasley faces.
Works for me.
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Pilot salary is such a minimal expense compared to operating cost and purchasing that I can only think that French sees the reason mentioned in the initial post as a bonus, not a primary reason to decide. 
(if they decide that is
(if they decide that is
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The Embraer website reports that E-195 performance at sea level, ISA and range limited to 500NM requires 1,600m of runway. That's fine for the GCI-LGW run but what about SOU-AGP, etc? Any hotter or further than this means going via BOH on a regular basis. I'm guessing these figures are given with rated T/O thrust and not flex too?
Max range fuel (1800NM) requires 2,200m.
Max range fuel (1800NM) requires 2,200m.
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I think you will find that the cost of salaries is one of the most expensive part of any business. In Aviation the biggest expense is fuel and next lies the cost of Pilot wages.
If you remember the 737 had performance problems in its early days. They were eventually sorted out. There is no reason the 195 can't have better lifting devices fitted or engines uprated. Airline requirements can be met if needed.
The guys at Flybe will know very shortly what Aircraft they are getting. In the meantime keep speculating and let the free-moles fly!!
If you remember the 737 had performance problems in its early days. They were eventually sorted out. There is no reason the 195 can't have better lifting devices fitted or engines uprated. Airline requirements can be met if needed.
The guys at Flybe will know very shortly what Aircraft they are getting. In the meantime keep speculating and let the free-moles fly!!
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Can you honestly see flybe placing a firm order for any new aircraft type, or any aircraft manufacturer taking them seriously, when the company is very publicly up for sale and the current owners are trying their hardest to offload their responsibilities.
If I was a manufacturer and JF came to me saying he would like to buy 15 new aircraft, but before we take ownership of said aircraft we are selling the company and we have no idea what the wishes of the future owners are, I would not take them seriously.
Sounds to me it is more propaganda from Exeter to keep the troops sweet and any announcement will be pure wishful thinking.
If I was a manufacturer and JF came to me saying he would like to buy 15 new aircraft, but before we take ownership of said aircraft we are selling the company and we have no idea what the wishes of the future owners are, I would not take them seriously.
Sounds to me it is more propaganda from Exeter to keep the troops sweet and any announcement will be pure wishful thinking.