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terrier21 6th Feb 2005 06:36

I think that an FCA BGI/SFB from BRS would work maybe twice a week with a based aircraft. Maybe another long haul destination thrown into the pot as well.

Back to DXB surely if the Flight times and cost is good you could easily fill a daily flight, there must be hundreds of buisness men/women who travel frequently to the emirates from the south west who use LON.

T21

MerchantVenturer 6th Feb 2005 21:21

I read in Friday's Bristol Evening Post that Euromanx are to start Friday evening and Sunday evening flights from BRS to IOM from 22 May this year. Fares will cost £69 return.

The report says it will be a jet service but gives no details of aircraft. It says the plan was announced last Thursday.

It is the brainchild of Australian entrepreneur, Warren Seymour, a former Quantas pilot who also owns a prestigious club frequented by celebrities.

He is focussing on leisure breaks on the Isle of Man and the BRS service was announced along with routes from IOM to MAN and SOU.

I have read bits on other threads about Euromanx flying to LCY, SOU and MAN but this is the first time I have been aware of a BRS involvement.

redfield 6th Feb 2005 22:38

Euromanx are flying the Saturday Olbia charters this year that OLT flew last summer from BRS: the a/c arrives from IOM, goes to OLB and then back to IOM, although I thought the IOM flights were positioning sectors.

dwlpl 7th Feb 2005 09:53

The EuroManx flight arrives Bristol 2130 on Fridays and goes back to the IOM Sunday at 1430.

What the aircraft does in between (apart from Olbia?) is a mystery.

WATABENCH 7th Feb 2005 16:45

There was a Euromanx in the FLYBE hanger in EXT and that was 146, Maybe they're tarting it up for Euromanx ready for chartering in the summer who knows, cant imagine FLYBE needing another they still have 6-7 dotted around the airport, ex-azzura a/c?

Back to FCA, does anybody know if the new 767s would make it with 250 pax off BRS runway, i'm not to hot on performance and things, if they did put it in, i think they would look at POP/SFB and poss CUN, same destinations they're starting at EMA this summer ,in theory they could put a SFB/CUN on together if theyre worried about filling it from the area and maybe POP/MBJ or something, theres probably a lot of customs/immigration issues but they do STT/ANU on the same flight from LGW so why not?
Seems odd that they put 767s into NCL and EMA when NCL isn't a base for them and EMA although 321 is based its not a very busy programme looking at the brochures, whereas BRS has 2 321s in summer that were choc full last summer!
:confused:

WEEKLY SSH IN SUMMER - XLA!
Announced Mon 07 Feb

Just been onto BRS website and FreedomFlights/Libra Holidays/XL.com have announced a weekly Sharm El Sheikh starting in May
Well done XLA, great to see another Charter doing well and looking at new markets from BRS instead of more flights to the areas saturated by EZY, Lets hope more follow suit.
:ok:

brabazon 7th Feb 2005 19:34

Are you sure the Euromanx in flybe's hangar wasn't an Avro RJ? Also the Azzurra Air RJs are stored at Exeter they are not flybe's - as far as I know.

WATABENCH 11th Feb 2005 16:20

Quick update on the new check-in hall, i've been told by someone at FCA that they are going in there with 6 dedicated desks and putting a new tix desk in there and are also hopeing to put up a bit of livery(sort of same as EZYs check-ins i think), apparently CO have asked for the current FCA desks as they're next to the oversize baggage/security area, not sure if FCA are moving because they want to or if BIA are pushing them a little so CO can have what they want, also apparently Thomsons and XLA have said that they wish to follow in FCA's steps and go in there as well, so chances are BIA are going to put all based charters in the new hall.

:ok:

terrier21 11th Feb 2005 16:27

Would prefer to see easyjet in there personally. I dont think the airport want to decerate the desks the way they have with Easy and BA. Easy new routes set to be released in the next few days.

WATABENCH 11th Feb 2005 16:43

Trust me Terrier me ol mucka, EZY aint goin in there! Hopefully FCA would be a bit more subtle with their decorations than EZY/BA, they're a pretty trendy outfit nowadays, well i think so anyway. Serese pink aint to everyones taste though, ha ha.
I hope EZY get an LEI going, its the only Costa not covered by them from BRS, the demands been there for years.:ok:

GrahamK 11th Feb 2005 19:01


Seems odd that they put 767s into NCL and EMA when NCL isn't a base for them
For the NCL flights, I believe the crew are GLA based, would think the EMA flights use MAN or LGW based flight crew

MerchantVenturer 11th Feb 2005 19:02

WATABENCH

Of the four new easyJet routes started from BRS in November Valencia seems to have made the slowest start.

CAA stats for November show 4757 pax used the route compared to Rome 6484 , Madrid 6542 and Budapest
5979, the other debutants.

For December the figures are Valencia 5351, Rome 6288, Madrid 6717 and Budapest 6502.

I believe you are/were a travel trade person (from one of your other posts) so I accept your point about demand for Almeria, although a daily LEI would give BRS seven daily easyJet flights to Spain's Mediterranean coast (AGP 2, ALC 2, BCN 1, VLC 1 being the others).

aeulad 12th Feb 2005 11:43

I would also add a route to Jerez in Spain.

Regards

Mike

terrier21 13th Feb 2005 17:19

Im not saying that easy will go in there all im saying is that I would want them to go in there. Reasons being it will take the passengers longer to get up to security from checkin and should cut down ques. Still stand by the fact that The ariport doesnt want to decerate more desks with the airlines livery. All desks are now being equipt with new LCD screens possibly going to be two on each desk they can play videos, powerepoint etc so that shoul suffice for advetisement.

Why do we need Another south spain Destinantion at the moment. Routes into eastern europe are expanding rappidly at the moment and ATH would be a sure winner. Alot of people still want more northern french routes...

...Flybe are you listening?!!!

T21

MerchantVenturer 13th Feb 2005 17:37


...Flybe are you listening?!!!
Hello terrier.

Flybe's latest west country route to France (Brest) is to operate from EXT.

I presumed, although I will gladly accede to the opinion of those in the business, that the Bergerac, Toulouse and Bordeaux services were flown from BRS because the airline did not think EXT could support them.

Perhaps it has now chaged its mind and any further French routes from the west country will be from EXT instead of BRS, particularly as FLybe have a/c based at EXT but not at BRS.

Any views on this?

WATABENCH 13th Feb 2005 18:35

Mr Merchant,
I think you may be correct regarding the french routes, and at the end of the day the airports are only an hour apart, so it would make sense for Flybe to maybe shy away from the overwhelming orangeness of BRS and make a proper little hub in EXT.
With regards to LEI, maybe you and terrier have a point in that a daily may be saturating the market, i can't understand why FCA or BY didnt pick it up a couple of years ago, as MYT had the route in Airtours brochure and First Choice were sharers, but then MYT went a bit boobies up shall we say and pulled their 2nd Skyservice a/c before the summer.
Could be a nice little seat filler for FCA or BY i reckon!

Also the regarding the new EZY routes, I just saw on another thread that EZY are going to be opening 7 routes from UK to WAW, gota be a BRS-WAW then to start with, surely?:ok:

WindSheer 14th Feb 2005 10:20

WATABENCH me old Mucka!!!

Going back to your 767 at BRS thing I do believe it can be done - with a reduced capacity (i.e 250pax), also depending on the destinations.
I believe it will do North East America with ease due to a relatively low load. However, with Viking cargo making waddles of cash out of the bellies of FCA's 767's, will they be able to carry cargo from BRS due to weight restrictions??
I think the company will spend a long time looking at the figures, combining this with the need for tech stops on the longer routes and work out whether it would be financially viable.

The market is definately there - BRING ON THE LONG HAUL!!:ok:
They could also utilize the aircraft on some short haul destinations in the way BY occasionally do.

WATABENCH, its nice to be back on UK soil BELIEVE ME!!!:uhoh:

WATABENCH 15th Feb 2005 05:10

Windsheer - How the Devil are you old boy?
Take it 10hrs on a 757 wasn't to your likeing then?
Funny you should say about utilising it on short haul, apparently the first flight for the new config 767 was to Austria on an adhoc:p

terrier21 15th Feb 2005 08:42

Apparently FCA are looking at basing a reduced capacity 767 next year with 250 all premium seats operating 5 longhaul - orlando x2 weekly Cancoon x1 a carribean and another service! All rumours of course!!!

See transun are putting on 40 day trips throughout this year mostly santa flights but also the Dracula flight on the 5th nov.

T21

CWL_Chris 15th Feb 2005 19:14

I'm sorry but if FCA are going to launch long-haul flights in this area of the world they will be using CWL, simply due to the Runway length.

Charter Airliners want to cram in as many passengers in as possible, CWL allows this, BRS does not.

DO NOT EXPECT 767 SERVICES WITH FCA ACCROSS THE ATLANTIC @ BRS.. EVER!

Regards,

Chris

MerchantVenturer 15th Feb 2005 19:32

Now that is a familiar theme, one we heard when both BRS and CWL were apparently in contention for the Continental EWR service, admittedly to be operated by 757s.

There is some evidence to believe the CWL management thought this service would fall into their laps because of the BRS 'runway problem'.

The man in charge of transport at the Welsh Assembly certainly thought so and said so publicly. I also remember reading a paper by a noted Welsh transport academic early last year saying the chance of BRS getting a New York service was almost nil. Any such service from this part of the world would go to CWL. That runway again.

Well, I have said before that my technical knowledge does not allow me to make a judgement. I do know though that the market is certainly there on this side of the Severn should such flights by FCA (or anyone else for that matter) be possible.


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