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hostiegirl 1st Feb 2005 16:39

grahamk are km having a bristol base or will it be w patterns??i know they had a brs base in 2003 when it was air azzura :ok:

GrahamK 1st Feb 2005 17:17

Dunno, just know about the new scheduled flight

ATCO1987 1st Feb 2005 17:59

I have a BIA Apron layout map and that says A321 on stand 1, B752 on 2 and 3.....
Noisy- Have to say, I thought they could go on 1 but if I think back, I cant rememebr the last time I saw one on stand 1...You can always keep watch from the birds nest and let us know ;).
Dan.

flyerboy 1st Feb 2005 19:43

ATCO1987

It was 2 weeks ago on a SAT the 3 BY's were on stands 1,2 and 3.

FB

redfield 1st Feb 2005 20:13

757's do fit on and have been parked on stand 1 but there's an isue with the ILS transitional slope especially in bad weather conditions. The tail-plane of the a/c interferes with the ILS in poor weather - this is why 757's don't go on stand one all that often. As far as I know no airline will be given priority for any particular stand: if the a/c is on the ground for three or four hours or goes tech or the like, it'll probably be banished to the W apron! (unless you're HH, in which case you'll be banished to stand 12!). Have the airport arranged some special financial deal to allow this HH a/c to park here for most of the winter? Does anyone know?

ATCO1987 1st Feb 2005 20:17

I knew of B752s being parked on 1, just not for a while is what I meant....so I was slightly confused <G>.
I had been told about the transitional surface issue whilst on work experience recently, but my brain isnt working all that well....maybe being brought up in Bristol isnt all that good after all <G>.

Standard Noise 2nd Feb 2005 07:56

Obviously not!:}

If Servisair want a 75 on stand 1 they have to contact us to ask permission. We only let them do it if there is absolutely no risk of CATIII conditions, which explains why we don't give them the nod very often.

WATABENCH 2nd Feb 2005 09:23

What i can't figure out in my head is the fact that the CO looking at the flight times is going to be hogging a front stand for nearly 2.5 hours each day, I've known S-air to have a go at us and push us off a front stand and have us sit somewhere else because we missed a slot and they wanted stand 1 for an FR 737, when there were plenty of other stands available, can't see them doing this to CO and as Windsheer raised, i hope they treat the old regulars that have stuck with BRS for years well, FCA/BY/BA/KL.
I'm sure they will but its an interesting subject hearing all the different views on it.;)

redfield 2nd Feb 2005 18:25

W: ref. the slot argument: the front stands are nearest to the terminal and don't need coaching, so I guess it's reasonable to assume that S/Air would rather not have an a/c parked on a front stand for hours on end and have to turn round x other flights on remote??? Have your poxy slot delay somewhere else! (Only joking honest!)


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terrier21 5th Feb 2005 06:18

Update on the extension works.

The Passenger pick up car parks new entrance and exit barriers have been opened up and are now in use making it alot easier to use. The checkin and arrivals extensions are now well under way and are being connected to the airports main frame as I write.

The Food village is now open 24hrs providing hot food around the clock.

Still no news from easy staff re new routes. Heard rumours of a couple of extra flybe destinations and the Aer Lingus SNN. Why not try to bring in the DXB service that CWL failed in. Also any ideas why there isnt a weekley BGI flight, we know it can operate direct surely there must be plenty of takers out there!

Also does anyone know why the BY SSH service only operates in the winter.

Cheers T21

PS. Airlines can request that their aircraft are put on front stands.

GrahamK 5th Feb 2005 08:46

terrier21, SSH is more of a winter sun destination, although a few UK airports will have flights to it in the summer such as TCX from NCL, and other flights from MAN,LGW,GLA and BHX.

As for EK to DXB, pretty sure you wont get an A332 operating nonstop with a decent load out of BRS anyway

MerchantVenturer 5th Feb 2005 11:26

Cannot check SSH loads from BRS because in the CAA stats Egypt section BRS, along with other smaller provincial UK airports, is merely grouped under 'other routes'.

Some months ago Britannia announced a SSH weekly flight from CWL next winter. The publicity blurb from the Tui people (not unnaturally supported by the CWL management) said something along the lines of what a great opportunity this was at last for Welsh and West of England people to enjoy the delights of Egypt from a local airport.

Tui seemed to forget they already have a route to SSH this winter from BRS unless of course they intend switching it to CWL next winter.

As for Dubai, what is the sudden attraction of this place? Is it merely a leisure destination because I can't imagine there are many potential business pax from this neck of the woods.

And was the rumoured CWL-DXB going to be a daily one?

As for SNN from BRS, it would be nice to get a decent ORK service beyond the Aer Arann three weekly rotations.

I was told a couple of months ago by a reliable source that Flybe were going to increase routes and/or frequencies from BRS, although nothing specific was stated because the person concerned rightly could not break confidences.

On another thread it is being suggested that easyJet's supposed plan to base another three 737s at BRS (making ten) is being delayed because the airport cannot accommodate them. Don't know the truth of the plan or the sticking point.

GrahamK 5th Feb 2005 11:42

MV, I think it's not just Dubai, but EK have built up a good hub at DXB in which passengers from Europe can connect through to Asia, Africa and Australasia from, and v.v
Saying that though, there will be a number of people flying only to Dubai

terrier21 5th Feb 2005 12:57

What is the difference in distance between DXB and EWR?

There Is room at Brs for more based Aircraft and the extension to the W apron will increase this more.

At the end of the day you dont necessarily need based aircraft to operate more routes, SXF for example.

T21

WATABENCH 5th Feb 2005 15:58

Terrier21

Am i right in thinking that BY-BGI operated without fuel stop but with only 2/3 load? i imagine their 767s are quite heavy as well as they're gettin on a bit i think.
But talking of caribbean/florida routes, there has been rumours of FCA bringing in one of their new 767s(dont know if it would be based)which are more lightweight than the 2 763s currently being operated by them, and with the new seating plans on board with more legroom which means they're cutting down from approx 330 pax to 250 pax, could this be the key to long haul from BRS? maybe they might link it with DUB for example BRS-DUB-SFB, any views on this? I think it could be a very good move for FCA if it could work, they're 321 loads on short haul are always busy and they are BRS's busiest charter and also have a great influence in the South west thru the First Choice retail shops(ex Bakers Dolphin) theres certainly a market for it in the South West.
Maybe EK might look at a similar thing via DUB or something, i dont think theres enough demand for a daily DXB from BRS, but certainly 2-3 times a week.
The futures bright, the futures Bristol - yeah rite!!;)

GrahamK 5th Feb 2005 18:21


What is the difference in distance between DXB and EWR?
Not a lot I don't think, but between the Take off performace of a 757 and an A332, I think you'll agree there is quite a difference :cool:

MerchantVenturer 5th Feb 2005 21:20


there has been rumours of FCA bringing in one of their new 767s(dont know if it would be based)which are more lightweight than the 2 763s currently being operated by them, and with the new seating plans on board with more legroom which means they're cutting down from approx 330 pax to 250 pax, could this be the key to long haul from BRS? maybe they might link it with DUB for example BRS-DUB-SFB, any views on this?
WATABENCH

If an airline is to run such a route from BRS via another UK or Irish airport does it matter much what equipment is used because it would only be a short hop from BRS to that other airport where a full load of fuel could be taken on board?

If on the other hand an airline brings in a/c capable of flying to Florida non-stop from BRS why the need to call at an intermediate airport? I have no doubt whatever that the BRS catchment would support such a flight (or flights) on its own, although I have to say that Mr and Mrs MV would not be interested.

Graham

Thanks for info re Dubai. AMS and to a lesser extent CDG are very good hubs for intercontinental travel from BRS - I know from personal experience of the former many times.

Whether there is a need for another, even if an a/c could operate from BRS to DXB, must be a moot point, and certainly not on a daily basis.

nclairportfan 5th Feb 2005 21:40

There were rumours sometime ago of EK at NCL. I doubt NCL could fill a daily flight but maybe a NCL-BRS-DXB rotation.

GrahamK 5th Feb 2005 23:48

You'd be surprisedn but i think EK could fill an A332 at least 4 or 5 times weekly from NCL.
Whether they could do that from BRS I dunno

Morrihell 5th Feb 2005 23:52

I've been having a dig around the Easyjet website looking for flights from BRS in August tonight.

Flights to/from the current destinations aren't too different though times and flight numbers have changed.

Of note though, NCE and PMI are both daily without any reductions to other flights, this would (?) suggest another based aircraft. I can't see that there's enough slack in the winter timetable to do the additional flights daily.

Andy


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