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MichaelDoyle 19th Nov 2004 16:29

Hi
Im from Liverpool.Love LPL & MAN just as much as eachother.I wont be dissapointed as I know that other airlines in europe will fill in the EZY LPL routes.Possibly a baby switch from MAN?
Thanks
Michael

willywick 19th Nov 2004 16:30

<b> this anouncement may not mean basing any aircraft at MAN - it could all be done by utilising the aircraft based at EZY's other bases e.g. Dortmund, Amsterdam, Nice etc...... </b>

Easyjet don't have any aircraft based in Amsterdam or Nice...

Continental bases are Dortmund, Paris, Berlin, Geneva. All other bases are in the UK.

Looks as though EZ will have to base a few aircraft and on the base of what we have seen 3-4 aircraft based there looks likely.

dwlpl 19th Nov 2004 16:32

If it does not happen on Monday, what then?

eggc 19th Nov 2004 16:45

Six based Jet2

Four based BMIbaby

??? based easy (3 or 4 ??)

Air Berlin about to double their operations at MAN

plus Hapag etc

Surely a dedicated lo-co terminal is on the cards for the cargo area...

otherwise where on earth will all these park ???

Speedbird777heavy 19th Nov 2004 16:51

So, let battle commence....

Not so much between EZY LPL and EZY MAN, but by all the loco presently at/soon to be based at MAN. How much is there now in the duplication of routes to the likes of AGP, ALC, NCE etc. Surely something will give - can the market really sustain all these flights plus the charters?

dwlpl 19th Nov 2004 16:56

I doubt very much the 'charter airline' has much of a future anyway.

PPRuNe Pop 19th Nov 2004 17:23

Please stop the sniping and stay on topic. Information is not always as it seems and can lead to a backlash.

Try being sensible and make proper comments.

We don't want to get heavy and ban the thread. So..................

PPP

Cyrano 19th Nov 2004 17:24

So EZY has applied for a load of slots at MAN?Doesn't mean much unless they keep them past the slot handback deadline (can someone remind me of the date - end of Jan?). They could be serious, they could just be playing a what-if game, they could be seeing what slots are free to build a smaller network out of MAN, they could be planning to fill a gap if one opens up, they could be psyching out the competition ;) ...

Flightrider 19th Nov 2004 17:43

There is indeed no proof that these applications are serious until such time as easyJet puts the routes on sale. Remember that they can hold slots up to 31 January without then using them for the summer season if they really felt like it.

According to the schedules filed, the only non-based aircraft operations were the easy swiss Geneva flights. All of the rest were nightstoppers at MAN - looks like four or five aircraft.

Some other applications in case of interest:

Air Polonia 4 x weekly Warsaw 737-400

No sign of any increase by Air Berlin versus the winter schedule

Air India 3 x weekly 777 Delhi-MAN-Toronto

Alitalia MD80s onto MAN-MXP and a new daily MAN-Rome MD80

Bmi applied for Toronto again, which would imply a fourth A330 if
the other Caribbean/Las Vegas services are to continue

FlyBe for MAN-BHD 4 x daily; MAN-SOU up to a 146

2nd daily Continental EWR with a 757

GB Airways routes as already announced

Jet2 routes as already announced

Malev 3 x daily BUD with 737-600

Sky Europe for Warsaw, Krakow 3 x weekly each

estonian 3 x weekly Tallinn 737-500

Lithuanian 3 x weekly Vilnius (very) late night 737 operation

Virgin Express Brussels (again)

No obvious signs of growth from bmibaby

Monarch applied for daily Murcia & Madrid A321 services


Will that do to keep the thread stoked up for a bit?

willywick 19th Nov 2004 17:55

Flightrider,

Any way you or anybody else in the know could publish the schedule which EZ supposedly wants to fly should they come to Manchester`?

dwlpl 19th Nov 2004 17:56

What the significance of January 31st?

eggc 19th Nov 2004 18:03

Flightrider,

Interesting list of applications, disappointing on the long haul front tho' considering the recent rumours.

Scottie Dog 19th Nov 2004 18:27

dwlpl

You obviously have not ready Flightriders posting properly.

Airlines can apply for and hold slots for the summer schedule as 'provisional' until 31st January. At that time all unwanted slots should be returned to Airport Co-ordination Ltd - the UK co-ordinator for Manchester Airport - for use by other airlines.

You might find the information on the ACL website of interest re the airports that are slot restrained in the UK.

http://www.acl-uk.org/

Cheers

Scottie Dog

Hope this helps to clear up the situation.

dwlpl 19th Nov 2004 19:00

What happens if they did not 'return' the unwanted ones and then did not use them?

ManofMan 19th Nov 2004 19:04

They wont be doing, take it from me.

Scottie Dog 19th Nov 2004 19:06

dwlpl

I think the answer to that is - prove that you intend you use them, or you will forfeit them?

If the slots are held for off peak times when there is no 'waiting-list' then possibly they may be allowed some leeway in the handback date.

Just my understand, not an official response.

Flightrider 19th Nov 2004 19:26

Plan looks to be five aircraft. Not all slot requests were given the slot times that they actually required, so this list is their requests rather than what they've been given:

A/C 1
ORY 07:45 11:20
RMI 11:55 17:00
ORY 17:25 21:00
PMI 21:35 03:25

A/C 2
NCL 07:00 09:00
MAD 09:25 15:05
NCL 16:00 18:05
ALC 18:30 00:35

A/C 3
BFS 06:25 08:30
BFS 08:55 11:00
BIO 11:45 16:50
AMS 17:30 20:40
BFS 21:05 23:05

A/C 4
AGP 06:00 12:30
ORY 13:15 16:40
NCE 17:10 22:25

A/C 5
AMS 06:35 09:50
BSL 10:20 14:50
DTM 15:20 18:30
BFS 18:55 21:00

Cheers

dwlpl 19th Nov 2004 19:38

The Monday announcement that was mentioned earlier in this thread may be related to the following thread that I have just created.

Liverpool to be Ryanair New Base : http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=152815

gayrugbybloke 19th Nov 2004 19:50

In the interests of northwest unity, I think we should all take a step back and have a big group hug.....ahhhhhhhhh that's better! Dwlpl. where is your hand going....??!!

dwlpl 19th Nov 2004 19:52

.... and still not a good word said in LPL's direction, eh Vuelo;)


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