Monarch Summer Schedule
 

Can anyone outline the summer aircraft basings and routes for Monarch airlines please?

Does anyone know how Monarch are doing at the moment and what their future plans maybe?

As ever, thanks in advance. :ok:

I think they are basing an A321 at EDI for the summer, as it will be doing all the MON routes from EDI.

There operating 1 a week to PMI from LBA, it's been nearly 10 years since theye had a scheduled service from LBA and then they had a based A320

CHEERS!!!!!!!!:ok:

One less A321 at BHX this year, down to a 1 aircraft base, first time for a while.

well the biggest mistake Monarch have made in a long time was late last year when they decided to shaft their commercial department by forcibly moving the experienced team to Gatwick. Naturally most of them said no, and now Monarch have a weak commercial team who are not particularly well respected in the industry. To make matters worse, the guys that got shafted are now working for the competition and skinning them alive at every opportunity.

would that be Excel Basil? current bad boys of PPRuNe? presume they will get the blame again when it all goes wrong...

Basil

I was very interested in your comments regarding Monarch's weak commercial dept and would be interested to hear how you come to that conclusion.
If you work for another airline as sugested then i would guess you would have little contact with them. More to the point if you have time to knock the competition you either cannot be very busy, you've taken your eye off the ball, or perhaps you were not offered a position in the new regime.

I have found both the old and new team to be highly professional and commercially minded.

Basil,

Are you referring to the Monarch Scheduled Commercial Dept or the Airline's Team or both?

From what I've seen, the Scheduled guys are holding their own.

Does anybody have any info on future Scheduled expansion?

Thanks.

Oh, for god's sake, give it a rest.

Basil and Botfoj, why do you need to chat on here when your company intranet would surely suffice just as well? Is inter-office communication so bad that you need to resort to these means?

And for the record, I thought the Monarch team were actually doing quite well. I don't believe you are genuinely so dismissive of their ability to compete with you.

I don't know why anyone's having a go at Basil - believe me he's spot on in everything he says. As for the schedules - great product , insufficient advertising equals ok loads, but could do better.. It's more of a consolidation summer for ZB this year with no new destinations but mainly increased frequencies....

A certain Mr Crick said last Autumn in the travel trade press, "More scheduled flights from Luton are coming".

Luton awaits more Monarch Sceduled services!


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I agree Monde

Monarch commercial has taken a nosedive recently. Certain individuals in that dept are very awkward to deal with to say the least!

And before anyone comments....no I don't work for Excel !

Monarch have flown far fewer ad-hoc charters than normal, this spring.

unwiseowl
very true about Monarch flying less ad-hocs, but they have been flying more schedule services so the a/c are being utilised in that sense.

They must be doing very well as the answer is always "no availability" when asking for a charter. And that's in the winter period. Or maybe they can't be bothered?

Harrier46
Guess it depends when you ask, and what you ask for. Weekends are busy, midweek not so.

Monde

I note your comment about insufficient advertising for Monarch Scheduled. I can't agree with that, living in London I have noticed a huge amount of newspaper advertising and I have also noticed quite a few huge hoarding poster adverts in central London listing their flights from London and Manchester. All in all 100% better and more effective than last year.

I feel somewhat compelled to come to the defence of the mud slinging of the commercial sales department.

Those particularly negative posters clearly worked for the previous commercial sales team and decided not to or were not asked to join the new team being based in Crawley.

I work for the airline and have to say I have only positive things to say about the team, the manner in which they work, the absolute desire to win and that they have the best interests of Monarch at heart. Yes they are new to us but not to the sector all have pedigree and you will always find those who may not like certain individuals in any company (normally because they are jealous).

Now to back up the data so far supplied by those who think they know but don't....

Winter 2003/4 I concur less ad-hocs have been flown and this is primarily because (as already stated) of increased scheduled activity plus the damp lease of an aircraft. More importantly and to quantify this, what has been flown (some 250 hours less than the previous year) has been flown at a significantly increased margin meaning that though less adhoc activity, more money has been made. FACT

I therefore ask you, what conclusions does one come to about the previous incumbant sales team in Luton and their relative abilities and the new one.

Seems to me the PB and the mangement have made a far better decision losing the dead wood and brining in the new blood.

As for those who previously worked in Luton and have moved on to pastures new, the very very best of luck to you all, I for one sincerely hope you continue to sell in the same way as you sold when in LTN, then the eventual downfall will just come much quicker!

Numbercruncher :O

Nice FIRST post there NC , either t'internet has made it down to the Crawley office or you're the first (no pun intended) person in LTN that i know thats got a good word to say about the new sales regime. I haven't laughed so much since you said we had a standby A300 this summer (!!)
Which ad-hocs have been flown which made more money than last year then ?- the rugby, the Puentes , the odd few footie charters compared to last season ?? - i don't think so somehow as the rates look pretty similar to me , and you're trying to tell us all that 250 hrs less flying has generated more profit - dream on... - although granted the NBO's did ok before they too went elsewhere .
It looks like PB's decision to bring in his mates has backfired big-time , apart from an Amritsar series which made f''@k-all what else new has FA managed to sell compared to the substantial flying that's been lost to the competition - additional Avro Malaga's ??. If the ZB's don't perform this summer then things could get very stormy indeed (i quote PB to a senior ZB manager - FACT)
TTFN - sorry if this is off topic guys...

p.s. before someone asks , i have never been a member of the previous commercial sales team....