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LBAir 7th Mar 2004 22:51

JET 2 expansion
 
Talk in the local grape vine suggests that a second JET2 aircraft is to be based at BELFAST INT and a seventh aircraft will be arriving at LEEDS in the summer. Is anyone aware of the use for these extra aircraft, ie new bases or additional services.

jimbols6 8th Mar 2004 00:57

two aircraft to go to BFS for the BFS-PRG route and what ever else they have planned for BFS and then the rest of the A\C at LBA eight in all for the summer schedule!!!
cheers:ok:

If this is wrong im sure B/Lcontroller(im always right) will correct me :rolleyes:

LBAir 8th Mar 2004 02:10

Jimbols6.

Can I correct you (if I may), the number of JET2 aircraft to be based at Leeds was going to be SIX for the summer season, but I understand this now to be SEVEN, not eight as you suggest. TWO aircraft are said to be basing at BFS, one of which its primory role will be a nightly fraight run and the other daytime sector will be as you suggest operating the Prague service.
This would leave one extra aircraft at BFS, possibly to operate other NEW services.

ILS 119.5 8th Mar 2004 03:32

Slightly off the subject but still Jet 2.
What do you think of the new check in facility for Jet 2. I came through today, it's a posh tent.

eurostar builder 8th Mar 2004 03:59

Fingers crossed


Bournemouth

Buster the Bear 8th Mar 2004 05:33

Jet2 must be a target of any larger low-cost airline, the purchase price could make Channex a fortune?

Mind you I did state the same words about a year ago!

HOODED 8th Mar 2004 15:06

Buster....Agreed. I'm just surprised one of the larger LoCo's didn't look at the potential from LBA before Jet2 set up. Still I bet Channex won't be complaining now! My hope however, is that they continue to operate as they have an excellent product and have a superb on time record.

Buster the Bear 8th Mar 2004 16:54

HOODED, I totally agree with you that Jet2 remain independent, but if a good offer was made then.......?

Did anyone actually think that Go would one day be owned by easyJet, or that Ryanair would purchase Buzz on the cheap?

xyz_pilot 8th Mar 2004 16:54

Buster the Bear

I am not sure that the plan for jet2 was not "build up then sell off and run".

Do you see jet2 as an independent airline in 5 years?

baps 8th Mar 2004 18:09

Hooded,

you comment about their "superb on time record". I agree that this is true but with 2/3's of their fleet sitting on the apron at LBA as spares most of the time it's not exactly going to be difficult to achieve. As for the service etc it is good and i hope that they continue to do well but it will be interesting to see how they do because aircraft on the ground don't make money!

carbine 8th Mar 2004 18:15

Sorry chaps but a take over ain't gonna happen!

Don't forget that Jet2 is just a trading name for Channel Express, who in turn is a part of the Dart group! A big group with lots of bits too it, and as a whole the group has never made a loss.

However saying that....the Jet2 operation is going to break even after just one year of op's. Now that is impressive in todays market!:ok:

jimbols6 8th Mar 2004 19:17

LBAair: im sure it is gona be 8 A\C at leeds and there no talk of nite cargo flights not that i no of the A\C that i have seen arent equipt for cargo all the A\C are ex Ansset and these were all pax A\C only but ill check it up.:p


And as for the rest of you yes i agree i think Jet2 will be sold off in the next couple of years, it would make a nice northern base for say Ryanair crews, flightdeck, 737's, good customer base and no set up costs. just the re-branding of the A/C and website Etc... would be a bit of a shame to see it go because it is a nice concept as far as low cost airlines go but thats the business world for you. Cheers :D

LBAir 8th Mar 2004 20:03

The JET2 concept is great, it works really well. It is even attracting passengers from places such as Darlington and Middlesbrough, Rochdale and Oldham dispite BMI Baby operating from Teesside and Manchester.

At face value its the same as all the other LOCOs but it appears to have some kind of attraction making it more appealing. Perhaps its the fact that most people see BMI Baby just as a re-branding ploy; same aircraft different colour and Easyjet doesn't do itself any favors with its TV programmes.:ugh:

JET2 does appear to offer something different. I don't think that they are going to sell the brand to another leading company. I believe they are going to be around for some time although on a smaller scale to its counterparts, perhaps 4 UK bases maybe one in Europe.

Going loco 9th Mar 2004 00:11

Jet2 have made no secret of the fact that BFS will see more routes. But for LBA, considering (i) where we are in the booking cycle for routes to the sun and (ii) the fact that the LBA schedule as it stands doesn't provide a full flying programme for 6 aircraft, the only thing that would make me get a couple of those remaining Ansett machines out of BOH, through their checks and up to LBA in time for the summer would be if a decent set of CDG and/or LGW slots appeared from somewhere

At this stage of the season, I'd be looking instead to use the spare capacity from the current fleet to top-up weekend services to the hotspots on the Med - another Saturday run to PMI looks like a must, while AGP and FAO seem to selling up nicely.

loco

PS - didn't LBAir's "grapevine" predict some sort of announcement from Jet2 back in January which never materialised? Maybe another reason to treat the rumour of extra a/c at LBA with a pinch of salt

4Screwaircrew 9th Mar 2004 05:46

One of the Ansett machines is now in an all cargo config and based at EDI, G CELW which was VH CZG. Further machines can be expected in quick change format to cover pax and cargo/mail flying in the same manner as LP and LR.

LBAir 9th Mar 2004 19:52

Going loco......

Yes, I did put my foot in it, reference the big January announcement:O :O oops sorry!!!:) With all due respect though, it did come from a reliable source and the rumour about a seventh aircraft at Leeds and a second one at Belfast have come from a different source. So at a guess, we'll just have to wait and see.

HOODED 9th Mar 2004 20:06

LBAir, just where would they park the 7th and 8th machines? In Multiflights Hangar? Guess they'd better start putting down more concrete on the main apron or kick out Eastern or BMI or KLM if not!:}

LBAir 9th Mar 2004 20:21

Good point HOODED, given the usual speed of LBA to react to growth, probably runway 27 without sounding too sarcastic. Although i'd personally get rid of KLM, for providing such a poor service and for cancelling so many flights, blaming it on TECH problems.

BEST L/CONTROLLER 12th Mar 2004 08:52

Jimbols!!!
 
Always jumping in with both tiny feet again!!!!!!!!!

The amount of Jet2 a/c at LBA for summer is 7 not 8.

G-CELB is due to be at LBA before APR04.

Cheers!!!

:ok:

!GOD KNOWS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PARK THE BLOODY THINGS!

LGS6753 13th Mar 2004 03:44

Jet 2 seems to be doing well, so why?

First, its base airport. No loco competition for miles around. A massive local population, and these days there's money in Leeds.

Two, sticking to sensible routes and not trying to go head-to-head with EZY or FR, who would retaliate.

Three, obviously run by professional business people with experience of running an airline.

Four, cheap aircraft, owned not leased, in enough quantity to make expensive sub-chartering unnecessary.

Five, following the low-cost model without trying to invent something different that may or may not work (like Now's pricing, Debonair's frequent flyer programme, Buzz's choice of aircraft)

Pity I didn't think of it a couple of years ago......


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