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Buster the Bear 18th Sep 2003 04:00

The destinations on thier web site may not be those finally flown.

Good luck to all those who have taken the NOW plunge!

Now, I want to go to: ...............

Mr jmc-man, if the marketing is sound, then as Luton has such a huge catchment area, if the loss leaders are good, then they will fill thier planes.

Might help if they used me, cuddly Buster to entice the public, or paint one as a logo BusterJet!

If they can get the media on thier side with some wizzo plan, then thier planes will be full.

They need to keep this marketing going into the new year.

How about a free cuddly Buster with every seat sold, or even BusterPoints, save them up when you book and get a free Whipsnade tour, or even share a sarnie with me!

BusterPoints, what an idea eh?

LTNman 18th Sep 2003 04:03

Flymate.

No the news was included in a route development and marketing report from the airport that has just been made public.

saltrock surfer 18th Sep 2003 04:16

Given the record of attempted 'intelligence gathering' about Now's destinations, it would probably be unwise for anyone who knows the destinations to write about them here anyway. I'm sure 'Now' will publish them when they're ready.

VIKING9 18th Sep 2003 05:35

One ex Continental B733, from the desert or from an existing lease that is about to expire :mad: When are EZY's 2 white tails up for grabs ??:confused:

jmc-man 20th Sep 2003 06:45

I'm sure they will post their destinations just as soon as....

they get the money to finance the project. (Or if they get the money to finance the project). Be in no doubt, that if the full finance was in place they would have been flying in July as planned. Continued delays in announcing start-up , or destinations , or selling tickets or even for that matter updating the website, are down to one thing, and one thing only....they money isn't there yet. November is the quietest month in the industry, followed by February and March. July was a great time to start, peak Summer , and lots of cash in the bank to see through the tough times of winter.

When (or If) it arrives, then everything will become public very quickly indeed.

Still got the champagne ready to send, but might break it out for the crew christmas party if not sent by mid December.

VIKING9 20th Sep 2003 15:29

jmc-man I hate to say it, but I think you will be proved wrong on all accounts......:E

Buster the Bear 20th Sep 2003 18:33

Luton is going to be busier!
 
Now Airlines update

Now Airlines, the new low-cost airline first revealed in March, has confirmed that it is currently in the process of having its AOC and
operating licence applications approved by the CAA. The airline plans to begin flying from London Luton Airport towards the end of 2003.

Chief executive Lars Welinder said: "We're aiming to provide travellers, both business and leisure, with a better flying experience. Before we begin operating, we will ensure that we have all the necessary regulatory approvals in place. This does take time but we feel that gaining our full licences at the outset will demonstrate to customers and partners alike that we have high standards and long-term ambitions. Our launch plans are progressing well on other fronts with a full team of pilots and cabin crew in place and training under way."

The airline will launch with two airplanes (148-seat Boeing 737 300s), with a third to be added in February and a fourth in March 2004.

As well as the launch task force which includes Lars Welinder, chief executive officer, Nick Grimwood, chief operating officer and Albert
Churchman, chief financial officer, the airline has appointed Frank Bishop as president of flight operations, Andy Lee as air crew
training manager, Nikki Woore as cabin crew manager and Jo Wiseman as marketing manager.

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Powerjet1 20th Sep 2003 18:46

Would seem to tie in with LTN Man's post of 17/9 re slot applications to start flying ops wef 11 December

eng123 20th Sep 2003 18:56

FLYMATE,

You mention the smartness of the aircraft.Just wondered,who is the maintenance providor that will deliver this smartness?

bmibaby.com 20th Sep 2003 21:57

Whilst Now! is claiming to offer customers a better experience in terms of their fare structure and the fact that there will be Now! customer representatives on departure and arrival like the mainline airlines, what else is different?

Will they be offering an onboard service that is much different to EZY/FR?

More legroom, entertainment and leather seats?
A decent catering service?

jmc-man 21st Sep 2003 06:47

Interesting post, Buster, where was it puiblished ?

It doesn't say a lot, but it's interesting to hear something from someone in authority, rather than the prattles of a recently recruited cabin crew member.

Heres the bit I found most interesting:-

Before we begin operating, we will ensure that we have all the necessary regulatory approvals in place. This does take time but we feel that gaining our full licences at the outset will demonstrate to customers and partners alike that we have high standards and long-term ambitions.
Does the Chief Executive ( is he still interim, by the way) really mean that there is option of operating WITHOUT all the necessary regulatory approvals? So surely this is not news, it could just as easily have been written by the CAA ( " NOW will only commence operations when they have received the necessary regulatory approvals). It's hardly a demonstration of standards or ambitions, just a statement of fact. AN AOC fee to the CAA is about £18K, it would cost about £200 to update the website.

With regard to the other individuals, if they get their act together, NOW will certainly have one of the best Traininers in the business. Easy deserved to lose him by the way they treated him. As for a President of Flight Operations this made me laugh out loud. Definately sounds like someone on a massive ego trip.

Nikki Woore used to work for GO

So nothing really newsworthy, but good to see one in the know at least say SOMETHING.

Powerjet1 21st Sep 2003 14:41

Jmc Man

Posted on Now's website under 'Media Info' - 19/9

Buster the Bear 21st Sep 2003 18:27

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=103136

jmc-man 21st Sep 2003 19:07

This is probably a local attempt to resurrect the business carried out by National Jet Italia, and attempted by British World. The Sardinians have been trying to get a decent scheduled service operation up and running foir some time. There is huge movement of government employees on a daily/weekly basis. I Can't believe they will generate enough business to make a success of it, but in Italy ( and Sardinia in particular) who knows?

bigredbin 21st Sep 2003 22:35

JMC-man I think what they mean when they say "necessary regulatory approvals" they mean they want their own AOC from day one, unlike other airlines that piggyback with other airlines to get them up and running, Easy started under Airfoyle`s AOC using the same headquarters as NOW ironically..

jmc-man 21st Sep 2003 22:55

Bigredbin, yes, I see your point, although it doen't quite read that way. When easyJet started on Air Foyles AOC with IAG's aircraft they benefitted from the economies of scale, whereby a huge chunk of overhead was spread across a much bigger fleet ( If I remember correctly there were a fleet of 146's operating for TNT and a 737-300 operating charter out of Leeds) I do recall a number of visits to Halcyon house to discuss various projects with the Air Foyle team . In fact thats where I first met Hamrah who, I seem to recall was Air Foyle's ( and therefore technically easyJets) Fleet Manager on the 737-200.

I notice that Astraeus have a successful AOC hosting operation in Iceland for Iceland Express. I would have thought NOW might have given them a call to discuss possibillities.

Buster the Bear 22nd Sep 2003 00:17

jmc-man the info came from Italy from a reliable source.

VIKING9 22nd Sep 2003 03:20

jmc-man When easyJet started under Air Foyle's AOC, they, Air Foyle that is, had no financial input whatsoever, apart from satisfying the CAA. Non of the costs incurred were met by Air Foyle. This was also the case when they assisted Air World, Sabre, Color Air, Air Scandic etc. Only the 737-300 operation under the name SUNJET were costs covered in-house. I doubt very much if NOW will call Astraeus for anything - there's no need to. NOW appear to be building a fine team from what I've heard :rolleyes:

Darth-Vader 22nd Sep 2003 03:57

Viking 9
 
Viking, Viking,

I see you are up too your old tricks! That was not very nice of you too have me barred like that!

But fear not, im back! new, improved and better than ever! :E

YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

:ok:

jmc-man 22nd Sep 2003 03:58

Viking 9,


you have half the story there. easyJet also had no major finance requirements to satisfy the CAA by starting with Air Foyle as their AOC holder. It gave them time to become established, make money and establish themselves in the market before jumping through the CAA hoops.

I accept it's horses for courses. I might debate the quality of the team that NOW are assembling, but thats obviously for another day.

In the meantime, I still believe that NOW are struggling to get all the finance together, hence the repeated delays.

We shall see.


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