European Aviation - how do you rate them?
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European Aviation - how do you rate them?
After hearing some of the rumours about European looking at replacing their Boeing 737-200 in the not too far future, I was wondering whether some people could tell me a bit about the airline.
I have met crews from EAAC at EMA when they did flights to/from ALC last summer and most seemed to be young, happy and tired, but:
1. What are the Boeing 737-200s like to work/fly on?
2. How efficient is the fleet of Boeing 737-200s?
3. Does anyone have any comments about how their trips on EAAC shorthaul have been?
I am just very interested in this outfit.
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I have met crews from EAAC at EMA when they did flights to/from ALC last summer and most seemed to be young, happy and tired, but:
1. What are the Boeing 737-200s like to work/fly on?
2. How efficient is the fleet of Boeing 737-200s?
3. Does anyone have any comments about how their trips on EAAC shorthaul have been?
I am just very interested in this outfit.
Thanks
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Hi,
The 737-200's are not very efficient. The flights from/to MAN are mostly delayed. Most of the 732's that they have are ex Sabena and were built in the mid 1970's. The cabins are worn (my dad flew on them from MAN-CDG) but you would expect that from a aircraft that is going on 30 years old.
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The 737-200's are not very efficient. The flights from/to MAN are mostly delayed. Most of the 732's that they have are ex Sabena and were built in the mid 1970's. The cabins are worn (my dad flew on them from MAN-CDG) but you would expect that from a aircraft that is going on 30 years old.
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Same goes for the 747 - 200's they now look great from the outside(new livery - paint job) - but are an absolute mess on the inside, the cabin on all aircraft are falling apart and are pretty thredbare!
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Maybe you could provide some more information on the interiors of the European B747-200. When did you fly on them to make your assessment? I am interested as I know someone who is going to Florida with them very soon.
Maybe you could provide some more information on the interiors of the European B747-200. When did you fly on them to make your assessment? I am interested as I know someone who is going to Florida with them very soon.
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Well I think European Aviation are Brilliant! I have worked for them and there is an extremely high standard of customer service on their flights.
The company is on the up and they are a good company to go with. As they merge with Bath Travel the reputation of the company will go up and up.
I say European Aviation should be highly rated.
The company is on the up and they are a good company to go with. As they merge with Bath Travel the reputation of the company will go up and up.
I say European Aviation should be highly rated.
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A very interesting contribution from you as what you have said matches the feedback I have already received about European Aviation. Maybe hotdowntheback has some kind of axe to grind with them but he does little for his own reputation by spreading what is quite clearly false information.
A very interesting contribution from you as what you have said matches the feedback I have already received about European Aviation. Maybe hotdowntheback has some kind of axe to grind with them but he does little for his own reputation by spreading what is quite clearly false information.
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bmibaby.com, I'd be happy to fly with EAL on a charter service (reasonable cabin crew, not bad seat pitch, sensible flight crew) but I was NOT happy when Donnington Hall thought one of the EAL 737s was an adequate substitute for the hailstone-damaged A321 G-MIDJ for two months. If I pay £300 for a domestic return I do not expect a tatty old a/c which still has ashtrays in the seats. Hotdowntheback's assessment of the cabins seemed pretty accurate to me. Fine for charter, though, I'm sure. 
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I have no axe to grind, I simply speak the truth. I flew to Orlando with them last month. The crew and service are similar if not as good as any other charter airline, but the cabin is in poor shape.
There is no need to create a slanging match my comment is that of a valid one.
You will enjoy your flight whatever I'm sure.
There is no need to create a slanging match my comment is that of a valid one.
You will enjoy your flight whatever I'm sure.
As an experienced flyer who has flown both those 747-200's and the 737, I sent in my cv for a cabin crew job.
I didn't hear a thing. Guess they must have all the crew they need for their operaions!!!
I didn't hear a thing. Guess they must have all the crew they need for their operaions!!!
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iv been with eal for two years "feels like 20!" iv got one month to go i cant wait. no more getting fu*ked around not knowing what you are doing from week to week no more late pay no more -30 in russia in the winter "did that one a lot" i feel like my life is about to start and i cant wait rate it 2/10 "god i must be in a good mood"
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xr4x4 if EAAC is that bad, why have you waited for 2 years to escape? Maybe nobody else will employ you with an attitude like that. What do you expect from an ad-hoc airline, surely not a stable roster ? Your life is about to start hey, have you just got one then ?
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Just a couple of observations...
The takeover by Bath Travel has still not been completed, although they supply a considerable amount of the work that European do.
The 737-300's have been deferred indefinately
They appear to have a good team, particularly in the cabin, but they suffer from operating old tired equipment.
The takeover by Bath Travel has still not been completed, although they supply a considerable amount of the work that European do.
The 737-300's have been deferred indefinately
They appear to have a good team, particularly in the cabin, but they suffer from operating old tired equipment.
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European Aviation -rate them
Flown on the 747-200 as cattle class four times now , intend to
do it again later in the year to Florida again. As a charter flight the service is excellent , aircraft okay for their age , but the interiors are now looking and feel shabby.
They get you to were you want to go for the price you pay , I've
had no significant delays or problems.
Good luck for the future European ..keep on truckin !!
do it again later in the year to Florida again. As a charter flight the service is excellent , aircraft okay for their age , but the interiors are now looking and feel shabby.
They get you to were you want to go for the price you pay , I've
had no significant delays or problems.
Good luck for the future European ..keep on truckin !!
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Over the last 4 years, I have flown with EAAC on several occasions - all private charters and have found them to be fine. Yes the preference would be to fly on newer aircraft, but the 200's are OK if not a little noisy. The interiors are always clean, and more importantly the crew have always been polite, friendly and professional.
The role of providing "ad-hoc" charters is a difficult one - you don't always know where your next job will be or when it will come. EAAC carry out some regular charter work, but without the ad-hoc side, there would be many flights that possibly would have been cancelled which EAAC have operated. G-MIDJ and if the choice is 737-200 or no flight, I'd take the 737-200.
I hope that the takeover by Bath Travel will not change EAAC to just another charter airline - its services are needed (even with older a/c).
The role of providing "ad-hoc" charters is a difficult one - you don't always know where your next job will be or when it will come. EAAC carry out some regular charter work, but without the ad-hoc side, there would be many flights that possibly would have been cancelled which EAAC have operated. G-MIDJ and if the choice is 737-200 or no flight, I'd take the 737-200.
I hope that the takeover by Bath Travel will not change EAAC to just another charter airline - its services are needed (even with older a/c).
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I worked at EAL in 2002 and it was the worst experience of my life, I left after 9 disrupted months. They need to be investigated by the CAA, dodgy long hours, no notice of changes to rosters, incompetent crewing, promotions given to "friends" of management, crappy old 25 year old aircraft, falling apart and not repaired inside.
I say AVOID
I say AVOID