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from Monday 28th Freshaer will be selling Dublin to Stansted, Birmingham and Manchester. They want to do Gatwick but haven't got the slot yet.
The other Cork and Kerry routes aren't planned to start yet.
Looks like Ryanair have got a new front to fight on now.......
The other Cork and Kerry routes aren't planned to start yet.
Looks like Ryanair have got a new front to fight on now.......
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Nice to see they will start flying 
. They going for an Air-Scotland start method of start-up? prove its viable before shelling out on your own aircraft leases?? Quite a good method really...
Will there be a blast of publicity? Should be really, as I doubt many people will have heard of them....
. They going for an Air-Scotland start method of start-up? prove its viable before shelling out on your own aircraft leases?? Quite a good method really...Will there be a blast of publicity? Should be really, as I doubt many people will have heard of them....
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Ryanair are to operate an extra rotation from Dublin to Gatwick soon. Have they pinched the fresh'uns slot there?
Taking on Ryanair.........Wow, the bloke that has bought Chelski FC must be involved, as he likes to back outsiders with loads of cash!
How long before Ryanair ruin Icelandair?
Taking on Ryanair.........Wow, the bloke that has bought Chelski FC must be involved, as he likes to back outsiders with loads of cash!
How long before Ryanair ruin Icelandair?
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I am surprised that FreshAer does not sell tickets on the internet. Indeed, you have to 'phone to book which will surely put off some would-be consumers.
Would-be customers like everything transparent and easy. Ryanair's website and its online booking facility is, I believe, both of these.
Does anyone know whether FreshAer's prices match those of Ryanair?
Would-be customers like everything transparent and easy. Ryanair's website and its online booking facility is, I believe, both of these.
Does anyone know whether FreshAer's prices match those of Ryanair?
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Don't know all prices, but STNDUB starts from €15 OW excl taxes.
Found out this morning, from the call center (website is crap) that they are doing 4x STNDUB, 3x BHXDUB, 2 x MANDUB and als 1x DUBAGP and 1 x DUBALC, routes which have no mention whatsoever.......
The STNDUB schedules are quite bizarre as well offering 0630, 1015, 1415 & 1910 from DUB, with 0810, 1215, 1615 & 2110 from STN. Hardly excellent times for business traffic if they were hoping to get any. 1615 return is just a bit too early, especially for STN, and 2110 defo too late.....
Found out this morning, from the call center (website is crap) that they are doing 4x STNDUB, 3x BHXDUB, 2 x MANDUB and als 1x DUBAGP and 1 x DUBALC, routes which have no mention whatsoever.......
The STNDUB schedules are quite bizarre as well offering 0630, 1015, 1415 & 1910 from DUB, with 0810, 1215, 1615 & 2110 from STN. Hardly excellent times for business traffic if they were hoping to get any. 1615 return is just a bit too early, especially for STN, and 2110 defo too late.....
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Fresh Aer....
hello all....
just wondering if anyone has an idea who's behind FRESH AER?
It's a new airline operating out of DUB , ORK and KIR...
Heard a rumour it's three ex-EI pilots..??
cheers
PG
just wondering if anyone has an idea who's behind FRESH AER?
It's a new airline operating out of DUB , ORK and KIR...
Heard a rumour it's three ex-EI pilots..??
cheers
PG
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Not sure who is behind it, but I guess you are aware that they currently are taking bookings over the telephone for operations starting on 1st October. For Pig Iron, I called the number this Pm and booked a seat DUB-LGW return and got it for E62
They are selling seats to Malaga for E199 return. It will be interesting to see if and "when " Mr O'Leary gets their attention
Regards
They are selling seats to Malaga for E199 return. It will be interesting to see if and "when " Mr O'Leary gets their attention
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I also hear they have not got slot approval at certain other airports either, but that might not be too much of a problem by the time October comes and the summer season dies away.
Does anybody know if Freshaer have their own AOC (or Irish equivalent) or are they using somebody elses?
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I also hear they have not got slot approval at certain other airports either, but that might not be too much of a problem by the time October comes and the summer season dies away.
Does anybody know if Freshaer have their own AOC (or Irish equivalent) or are they using somebody elses?
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I would exercise caution when booking. This company is operating from an accomodation address in Ascot in the UK. I am sure there is nothing fishy going on but bear in mind they are attempting to go head to head with FR out of Dublin, how long will they last ?
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Since we appear to have 2 threads running in the subject I thought it might be worthwhile cross referencing:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...threadid=97172
Hopefully my link might have worked, since it contains some relevant answers to questions.
Scottie Dog
Thks ScottieDog Ive merged them now. Hogg
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...threadid=97172
Hopefully my link might have worked, since it contains some relevant answers to questions.
Scottie Dog
Thks ScottieDog Ive merged them now. Hogg
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Just pulled this off the Irish Times Web Site. There seems to be an eclectic mix of guys behind FreshAer which is where your money might disappear to if you book with them. Although they are keen to take your money before they are authorised to do so they have reassured the flying public that their new startup operation is "kosher" so that should put everyones mind at rest.
Perhaps Short-of-working-capital-Aer or Here-Today-Gone-Tomorrow-Aer would be more appropriate.
Aviation regulator queries new airline over operating licences
One of the State's aviation regulators has queried a new UK-based airline about its activities after it began selling flight tickets here this week without first getting the necessary licences to operate in the Republic, writes Barry O'Halloran
The Commission for Aviation Regulation told The Irish Times yesterday that it put a number of questions to newly-launched carrier, FreshAer, after the company began offering flights to Irish consumers via a phone line and the Internet.
It is running a promotion inviting consumers to "book now" with the Evening Herald newspaper. FreshAer is currently operating from offices in England.
Airlines have to be licensed by the Commission for Aviation Regulation and the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA), or their equivalents in other EU countries, before they can operate here. The IAA is responsible for safety and the commission handles issues like finance and insurance. FreshAer has not applied to either Irish body, or to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). It is not licensed anywhere else in Europe.
A spokeswoman for the commission said the agency was concerned that it began trading without applying for, or getting, licences. "We are seeking clarification about a number of issues," she said.
FreshAer intends to begin flights from Dublin to destinations in the UK and Spain in October. Both aviation agencies said it could take up to six months to get licensed.
Mr John Lepp, of FreshAer, said last night that the company intends applying for the licences in three weeks. He said that another airline, Icelandic Air, which is licensed, would operate its services while the company went through the application process. "I can assure you that our operation is absolutely kosher," he stressed. "We have spoken to both the commission and the IAA and they are aware of what we are doing."
One of FreshAer's founders is former Aer Lingus employee Mr Tony Robinson. Its management also includes one-time Ryanair chief pilot Mr Kim Duggan, former Aer Aran boss Mr Bob Laird, and former senior figures from Transaer and Storm Aviation.
The company has a registered address in Berkshire, England, but intends moving to premises in Swords, Co Dublin, in four or five weeks. It says it has an initial bankroll of €7 million and intends taking delivery of four Boeing 757s in September and will pay a €2 million deposit to secure them. It will lease the aircraft.
Perhaps Short-of-working-capital-Aer or Here-Today-Gone-Tomorrow-Aer would be more appropriate.
Aviation regulator queries new airline over operating licences
One of the State's aviation regulators has queried a new UK-based airline about its activities after it began selling flight tickets here this week without first getting the necessary licences to operate in the Republic, writes Barry O'Halloran
The Commission for Aviation Regulation told The Irish Times yesterday that it put a number of questions to newly-launched carrier, FreshAer, after the company began offering flights to Irish consumers via a phone line and the Internet.
It is running a promotion inviting consumers to "book now" with the Evening Herald newspaper. FreshAer is currently operating from offices in England.
Airlines have to be licensed by the Commission for Aviation Regulation and the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA), or their equivalents in other EU countries, before they can operate here. The IAA is responsible for safety and the commission handles issues like finance and insurance. FreshAer has not applied to either Irish body, or to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). It is not licensed anywhere else in Europe.
A spokeswoman for the commission said the agency was concerned that it began trading without applying for, or getting, licences. "We are seeking clarification about a number of issues," she said.
FreshAer intends to begin flights from Dublin to destinations in the UK and Spain in October. Both aviation agencies said it could take up to six months to get licensed.
Mr John Lepp, of FreshAer, said last night that the company intends applying for the licences in three weeks. He said that another airline, Icelandic Air, which is licensed, would operate its services while the company went through the application process. "I can assure you that our operation is absolutely kosher," he stressed. "We have spoken to both the commission and the IAA and they are aware of what we are doing."
One of FreshAer's founders is former Aer Lingus employee Mr Tony Robinson. Its management also includes one-time Ryanair chief pilot Mr Kim Duggan, former Aer Aran boss Mr Bob Laird, and former senior figures from Transaer and Storm Aviation.
The company has a registered address in Berkshire, England, but intends moving to premises in Swords, Co Dublin, in four or five weeks. It says it has an initial bankroll of €7 million and intends taking delivery of four Boeing 757s in September and will pay a €2 million deposit to secure them. It will lease the aircraft.
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Freshair not licenced 8/1/2003 6:16:46 PM
An airline company which is accepting bookings from Irish passengers, is not licensed to operate according to the Commission for Aviation Regulation. FreshAer.com is due to start flying in October, but the Commission says its breaking the law. A spokesman for the Evening Herald say they are waiting for a response from FreshAer.com to the controversy. But say they were told the company is licensed through another airline.
www.onbusiness.ie
The Commission for Aviation Regulation has warned air travellers who book tickets with start-up airline FreshAer that they will not have protection under Irish Travel Trade legislation.
The legislation offers travellers protection and assistance if their ticket agent goes bankrupt.
FreshAer has advertised in the newspapers and on the internet its plans to offer flights from Dublin to a range of UK and Spanish destinations from October 1.
FreshAer has also yet to obtain the necessary licence from the Commission to operate flights out of Ireland. Yesterday it announced an interim solution which will see it operate flights through licensed operator Icelandic Air.
Freshair not licenced 8/1/2003 6:16:46 PM
An airline company which is accepting bookings from Irish passengers, is not licensed to operate according to the Commission for Aviation Regulation. FreshAer.com is due to start flying in October, but the Commission says its breaking the law. A spokesman for the Evening Herald say they are waiting for a response from FreshAer.com to the controversy. But say they were told the company is licensed through another airline.
www.onbusiness.ie
The Commission for Aviation Regulation has warned air travellers who book tickets with start-up airline FreshAer that they will not have protection under Irish Travel Trade legislation.
The legislation offers travellers protection and assistance if their ticket agent goes bankrupt.
FreshAer has advertised in the newspapers and on the internet its plans to offer flights from Dublin to a range of UK and Spanish destinations from October 1.
FreshAer has also yet to obtain the necessary licence from the Commission to operate flights out of Ireland. Yesterday it announced an interim solution which will see it operate flights through licensed operator Icelandic Air.