Ryanair Money Programme 04/06
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Did anyone else catch this, just wondered how you all think MOL
came accross, reasonably arrogant and very determined but he has reason to be.
I think Ryanair came out of it well.
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came accross, reasonably arrogant and very determined but he has reason to be.
I think Ryanair came out of it well.
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Bollockology
Although I don't work for Ryanair, I thought that MOL has come across extremely well last night.
He has a style that makes a mockery of "established" airlines and quite rightly so.
I particularly liked the new word "Bollockology" which really does sum up the ethos and atmosphere in many airlines, we may be unfortunate enough to work for!
He has made Ryanair the number one airline in Europe and whatever anyone says: he is Mr Success.
I post this under Rumours & News simply because it's Rumoured that they will become bigger than BA and it's refreshing News that
it's gonna be within 2 years.
He has a style that makes a mockery of "established" airlines and quite rightly so.
I particularly liked the new word "Bollockology" which really does sum up the ethos and atmosphere in many airlines, we may be unfortunate enough to work for!
He has made Ryanair the number one airline in Europe and whatever anyone says: he is Mr Success.
I post this under Rumours & News simply because it's Rumoured that they will become bigger than BA and it's refreshing News that
it's gonna be within 2 years.
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not so sure
The message seemed to be:
Ryanair don't care about partially disabled passengers.
Ryanair don't care about customer service.
Ryanair don't care about potentially misleading ads.
Ryanair don't care about baggage damage in transit.
Ryanair don't care that they drop their passengers in "the sticks".
Oh, and I nearly forgot:
Ryanair are a very successful airline!
Ryanair don't care about partially disabled passengers.
Ryanair don't care about customer service.
Ryanair don't care about potentially misleading ads.
Ryanair don't care about baggage damage in transit.
Ryanair don't care that they drop their passengers in "the sticks".
Oh, and I nearly forgot:
Ryanair are a very successful airline!
What about the Passenger Service Charge(PSC), Insurance charge and airport departure tax?
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newswatcher,
I paid £1.99 + airport charge, nothing else.
Not sure what PSC is for and who pays it, I didn't!
Show me an airline that doesn't charge Airport Departure Tax, they must include this when you pay for your ticket. Believe me MOL would love to have that charge quashed, he makes nothing from it.
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I paid £1.99 + airport charge, nothing else.
Not sure what PSC is for and who pays it, I didn't!
Show me an airline that doesn't charge Airport Departure Tax, they must include this when you pay for your ticket. Believe me MOL would love to have that charge quashed, he makes nothing from it.
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Air Passenger Duty is applied by every airline equally, I don't think MOL would like it abolished as he makes money out of those people who cancel and who therefore whose duty is not liable to pass on. Try claiming it back? No sorry too much hassle.
Beyond that you get charged various airport taxes which may or may not relate to the charges incurred by Ryanair.
Yep, you can get cheap fares on Ryanair and yep the average fare is lower than any other airline, BUT some people who book late are paying a LOT e.g. 300 Euros return and could be better checking out a full-service carrier.
MOL's total lack of appreciation of the problems of the disabled passenger were incredible - let us hop that he never has the inconvenience of being in that situation.
While the programme did cover most of the reasons for Ryanair's success it fell into the vogue for dumbing things down and filling time with lots of shots of aircraft taking off and landing. The Money Programme used to do things better.
Air Passenger Duty is applied by every airline equally, I don't think MOL would like it abolished as he makes money out of those people who cancel and who therefore whose duty is not liable to pass on. Try claiming it back? No sorry too much hassle.
Beyond that you get charged various airport taxes which may or may not relate to the charges incurred by Ryanair.
Yep, you can get cheap fares on Ryanair and yep the average fare is lower than any other airline, BUT some people who book late are paying a LOT e.g. 300 Euros return and could be better checking out a full-service carrier.
MOL's total lack of appreciation of the problems of the disabled passenger were incredible - let us hop that he never has the inconvenience of being in that situation.
While the programme did cover most of the reasons for Ryanair's success it fell into the vogue for dumbing things down and filling time with lots of shots of aircraft taking off and landing. The Money Programme used to do things better.
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One Four Sick:
But he does make money from the car that you hired or
the bus that you paid money for to get you downtown (after
about an hour...) I was surprised that the BBC didn't mention the
conditions for being hired at Ryanair. Paying for your CV to be
read, paying for your own type rating,not being allowed to join a
junion etc.
Just a question (I don't know anybody flying there):
Are the employees happy working there and do they see
any money back from the profits?
And no, I've never tried to get into Ryanair so no grudges.
Rgds.
But he does make money from the car that you hired or
the bus that you paid money for to get you downtown (after
about an hour...) I was surprised that the BBC didn't mention the
conditions for being hired at Ryanair. Paying for your CV to be
read, paying for your own type rating,not being allowed to join a
junion etc.
Just a question (I don't know anybody flying there):
Are the employees happy working there and do they see
any money back from the profits?
And no, I've never tried to get into Ryanair so no grudges.
Rgds.
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One four sick, on a Ryanair flight STN/CIA/STN in July, you will pay £6 PSC, £1.86 ins and £5 departure tax going out, and £5.74 govt. tax, £1.86 ins, and £2.82 Airport tax coming back - £23.28.
Not sure why you didn't see a PSC!
Not sure why you didn't see a PSC!
Insurance Levy - With effect from Friday the 28th September Ryanair will be imposing this levy (in local currency equivalent) as part of the Passenger Service Charge on each itinerary for all flights after the 30th September. We hope that the necessity for this levy will not be long term and we will immediately reduce or remove it when possible.
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2 Points which the programme forgot to mention (or didn't know about??) in the way that ryanair makes/saves money.
1. Make your new pilots pay for their own rating (becoming more and more accepted, but i think it was ryan who started it as policy)
2. make your baggage allowance 15kg and then charge £4 for every kilo over. I know it's nit picking but most airlines don't mind if you're a couple of KG's over (I flew with 30kg's once from singapore to heathrow where my allowance was 20 but i just chatted away and all they did was put a heavy sticker on it) not ryanair.
Having said all that I still love flying with them, and imagine what prices would be nowadays if it wasn't for low cost airlines. As they always keep on saying on ITV's F1 show, they're keeping the other team (read airlines) honest
1. Make your new pilots pay for their own rating (becoming more and more accepted, but i think it was ryan who started it as policy)
2. make your baggage allowance 15kg and then charge £4 for every kilo over. I know it's nit picking but most airlines don't mind if you're a couple of KG's over (I flew with 30kg's once from singapore to heathrow where my allowance was 20 but i just chatted away and all they did was put a heavy sticker on it) not ryanair.
Having said all that I still love flying with them, and imagine what prices would be nowadays if it wasn't for low cost airlines. As they always keep on saying on ITV's F1 show, they're keeping the other team (read airlines) honest
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Of course he makes money from the car you've hired, so would anyone else that set up a deal as such. Good on him.
Presumably you wouldn't hire it at the wrong price though!
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I have "booked" those flights with Ryanair just now:
London Stansted (STN)
Rome Ciampino (CIA)
London Stansted (STN) 10 Jul-16Jul
Cost: 19.99 GBP o/b - 7.99 GBP i/b total: 51.66 GBP
British Airways
LHR-FCO-LHR
9-15 Jul
Total cost: £ 118.50
Who do you think I should fly with?
Of course he makes money from the car you've hired, so would anyone else that set up a deal as such. Good on him.
Presumably you wouldn't hire it at the wrong price though!
newswatcher
I have "booked" those flights with Ryanair just now:
London Stansted (STN)
Rome Ciampino (CIA)
London Stansted (STN) 10 Jul-16Jul
Cost: 19.99 GBP o/b - 7.99 GBP i/b total: 51.66 GBP
British Airways
LHR-FCO-LHR
9-15 Jul
Total cost: £ 118.50
Who do you think I should fly with?
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Thought it portrayed the airline in a fair light. One thing I did enjoy was seeing MOL squirm when asked what the maximum one-way charge on a typical Ryanair flight was - £179.99!! 
And since when does BA serve Champagne in shorthaul economy?...think that was stretching the comparisons a bit!
No, I think they're great; best of luck to them.
And since when does BA serve Champagne in shorthaul economy?...think that was stretching the comparisons a bit!
No, I think they're great; best of luck to them.
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I have just booked my cousins family STN-BGY-GRO-STN at a superbly low price.
When I gave her the good news she quipped ' how on earth can they afford to maintain their aircraft at that price?'
She's still going though.
When I gave her the good news she quipped ' how on earth can they afford to maintain their aircraft at that price?'
She's still going though.
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one four sick, I thinnk you misunderstand me. I am not disputing that Ryanair can be the "cheapest" airline, I was merely trying to establish that, when someone says that they have flown from A-B at a certain price, then that should be the total for the tickets. Something that Easyjet got into trouble about recently!http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2961528.stm
config, agreed, the original suggestion by rupetime was that Ryanair
My original post outlined what I believed the BBC had said!
config, agreed, the original suggestion by rupetime was that Ryanair
came out of it well
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MOL was saying that 70% of his seats are cheapies its the 30% where he makes his money - that will include the taxes and psc - all in over the whole aircraft and the whole gross operating costs he makes money - plus he has spins like car hire and bus kick backs - maybe he's not everyone's friend or favourite but he's certainly got a head for business.
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As somebody else noted the Money Programme used to be a far more analytical affair than this effort. Leaning a little too far toward the "Holiday/Airline/Airport" genre methinks.
No great surprises's though-probably preaching to the converted for most of it's 30 mins. Although I did feel Micky was doing "Paddy cattle traders" a great disservice-most I've met have more wit and charm in their little finger.
No great surprises's though-probably preaching to the converted for most of it's 30 mins. Although I did feel Micky was doing "Paddy cattle traders" a great disservice-most I've met have more wit and charm in their little finger.
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Watched the programme, didn't say anything that wasn't obvious. Just a couple of points, Lada make cars, so do BMW, can't see any Lada's in my street as I look out the window.
I think the key to it's success is primarily the development of the internet combined with the recession in the airline industry thereby making Ryanair one of the few companies that actually recruit.
They also have an almost exponential ticket pricimg system. The last time I flew to DUB it cost £170 one way, I'm sure that someone else on the flight paid £5, so I effectively subsidise their travel.
Nothing Ryanair do is rocket science, its very simple really. I think the problem is that most other airlines (and I include Easyjet) don't think of them as the competition.
Generally I don't fly with them because they don't go where I want to, but my brother does for his leisure travel as he is not too bothered about where in a particular country he goes.
Horses for courses. I don't think they will ever overhaul the more established carriers in Europe as people WANT to fly to LHR, CDG, FRA, AMS,it's supply vs demand really. That is why these airports keep expanding.
Harry
I think the key to it's success is primarily the development of the internet combined with the recession in the airline industry thereby making Ryanair one of the few companies that actually recruit.
They also have an almost exponential ticket pricimg system. The last time I flew to DUB it cost £170 one way, I'm sure that someone else on the flight paid £5, so I effectively subsidise their travel.
Nothing Ryanair do is rocket science, its very simple really. I think the problem is that most other airlines (and I include Easyjet) don't think of them as the competition.
Generally I don't fly with them because they don't go where I want to, but my brother does for his leisure travel as he is not too bothered about where in a particular country he goes.
Horses for courses. I don't think they will ever overhaul the more established carriers in Europe as people WANT to fly to LHR, CDG, FRA, AMS,it's supply vs demand really. That is why these airports keep expanding.
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MOL came across superbly last night........ cut the crap and lets offer cheap flights....
What ever happens- he's kicking the crap out of BA- they need to change.
Exciting times ahead
What ever happens- he's kicking the crap out of BA- they need to change.
Exciting times ahead