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.....and this and other threads repeatedly mention EZY in comparison to BM, FlyBE, etc. The one critical difference with EZY is the 'join-the-dots' philosophy, not just in the UK but also overseas.
Look at the number of continental Europe stations already interlinked, especially from NCE, AMS, BCN, etc. There is a lot of growth potential simply in linking many of the existing stations, particularly in linking up to some of the ex-Go stations in Italy etc.
There are numerous stations (Prague, Milan, etc.) which could easily become 'virtual hubs' in the same was as AMS, BCN, and NCE.
Look at the number of continental Europe stations already interlinked, especially from NCE, AMS, BCN, etc. There is a lot of growth potential simply in linking many of the existing stations, particularly in linking up to some of the ex-Go stations in Italy etc.
There are numerous stations (Prague, Milan, etc.) which could easily become 'virtual hubs' in the same was as AMS, BCN, and NCE.
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Low Cost Model !
People go on and on about the low cost model.
The expression has become meaningless.
large and small companies are all run by people who like all of us have good and bad days, egos tempers, imagination ect ect.
The CEO is crutial to the success or failure of a company, and there is no getting away from that.
EasyJets Share price reflects institutional sentiment towards the company.
It is at an all time low.
Something has to change.
People go on and on about the low cost model.
The expression has become meaningless.
large and small companies are all run by people who like all of us have good and bad days, egos tempers, imagination ect ect.
The CEO is crutial to the success or failure of a company, and there is no getting away from that.
EasyJets Share price reflects institutional sentiment towards the company.
It is at an all time low.
Something has to change.
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Although I often lurk in this forum I rarely contribute to it because I am not an industry professional and consider I have nothing relevant to impart.
However, I hope this post will be excused as a little insight from one representative of the group without whom no passenger airline could survive, namely the passengers.
Yesterday my wife and I flew from BRS to EDI in the morning and returned in the evening. It was our first flight with the airline since total absorption of Go at the end of March.
We were delighted with the service provided - and the fares!
Arrival at EDI was about 15 minutes late but I am sure that was to do with air traffic congestion than with the airline because we were loaded and ready to go ontime. The captain also said he was hoping for an earlier departure slot but in the end was out of luck.
We were a little apprehensive about the return flight because we wondered whether our aircraft might be delayed following its flights during the day which we assumed probably included longwinded diversions to the Med to avoid French air space. In the event we landed back at BRS fifteen minutes early!
The cabin staff on both flights were friendly, helpful and efficient. Both captains also sounded enthusiastic and gave us plenty of information about the flights. On the return flight we were even told the landing weight and landing speed of the aircraft.
A thoroughly enjoyable experience for us provided by crews who were thoroughly professional and there was certainly no outward sign of low morale.
Well done and thank you to everyone at the airline for making our day begin and end well.
The only disappointment was the Division 2 football playoff score that greeted us on our return but that's another story.
However, I hope this post will be excused as a little insight from one representative of the group without whom no passenger airline could survive, namely the passengers.
Yesterday my wife and I flew from BRS to EDI in the morning and returned in the evening. It was our first flight with the airline since total absorption of Go at the end of March.
We were delighted with the service provided - and the fares!
Arrival at EDI was about 15 minutes late but I am sure that was to do with air traffic congestion than with the airline because we were loaded and ready to go ontime. The captain also said he was hoping for an earlier departure slot but in the end was out of luck.
We were a little apprehensive about the return flight because we wondered whether our aircraft might be delayed following its flights during the day which we assumed probably included longwinded diversions to the Med to avoid French air space. In the event we landed back at BRS fifteen minutes early!
The cabin staff on both flights were friendly, helpful and efficient. Both captains also sounded enthusiastic and gave us plenty of information about the flights. On the return flight we were even told the landing weight and landing speed of the aircraft.
A thoroughly enjoyable experience for us provided by crews who were thoroughly professional and there was certainly no outward sign of low morale.
Well done and thank you to everyone at the airline for making our day begin and end well.
The only disappointment was the Division 2 football playoff score that greeted us on our return but that's another story.
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Merchant, with a post like that are you sure you're not a member of Easy managment?
Also, glad you rarely contribute to these forums because with 100+ posts since March you're not doing too badly!
Also, glad you rarely contribute to these forums because with 100+ posts since March you're not doing too badly!
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Since I note from your previous posts Billy that you work for Easy, I find it rather sad that you apparently cannot accept positive comments over the professional competence of your colleagues at Bristol.
If, as I suspect, this is another of your asides as to the machinations of some or all of the Easy management, please feel totally free to continue.
All I would ask is that you consider the substance and implications of your posts before you hit the 'submit' button.
If, as I suspect, this is another of your asides as to the machinations of some or all of the Easy management, please feel totally free to continue.
All I would ask is that you consider the substance and implications of your posts before you hit the 'submit' button.
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Billy Whizz,
I have never worked in the air or travel industry, neither do I know personally anyone who does. I do not own easyJet shares either and never have done so. My relationship with easyJet is simply as a fare-paying passenger.
When I said I rarely contribute to this forum, I was talking about this forum - Rumours and News - which I understand to be primarily for professional airline staff.
I am merely someone who is very interested in public transport and who finds the views of most contributors informative and valuable. This particular forum is especially helpful to someone trying to learn as much as he can about the civil aviation world.
Most of my posts have been in other forums on this site, many seeking advice or information from people who know far more about civil aviation than I do or ever will. From your rather ungracious comment, it appears that you are suggesting that a total of one hundred posts in about three months is overdoing things. If the moderators of this site think as you do I would certainly accede to their wishes and bow out.
I am sorry that my genuine attempt to highlight what I believe to be praiseworthy service on the day in question seems to have struck a raw nerve with you.
If you do work for easyJet perhaps one day I might have cause to be critical of your performance, in which case I suppose you will be pleased, as you appear to eschew praise when given to colleagues.
I have never worked in the air or travel industry, neither do I know personally anyone who does. I do not own easyJet shares either and never have done so. My relationship with easyJet is simply as a fare-paying passenger.
When I said I rarely contribute to this forum, I was talking about this forum - Rumours and News - which I understand to be primarily for professional airline staff.
I am merely someone who is very interested in public transport and who finds the views of most contributors informative and valuable. This particular forum is especially helpful to someone trying to learn as much as he can about the civil aviation world.
Most of my posts have been in other forums on this site, many seeking advice or information from people who know far more about civil aviation than I do or ever will. From your rather ungracious comment, it appears that you are suggesting that a total of one hundred posts in about three months is overdoing things. If the moderators of this site think as you do I would certainly accede to their wishes and bow out.
I am sorry that my genuine attempt to highlight what I believe to be praiseworthy service on the day in question seems to have struck a raw nerve with you.
If you do work for easyJet perhaps one day I might have cause to be critical of your performance, in which case I suppose you will be pleased, as you appear to eschew praise when given to colleagues.
Paxing All Over The World
In the argument about one carrier gaining pax from another ... I think that you will find the crucial issue is: "How far is the airport from my front door?"
Let us say that no LCC had started at LTN, which is less than 20 minutes (average) drive for me. Would I have gone to GO at STN that is an hour and a quarter's drive from me - including the M25 - or would I have gone to LHR that is 40 mins away?
With road transport being so poor, I want to minimise the amount of time I spend using it. If the closer flight is more expensive, I have to have very good reasons to drive further. Families that have four or more tickets to buy and it is a once a year holiday, may have other criteria.
One of the factors that has (and is) fuelling the growth is opening up regional bases. In due course that source of growth will be saturated and THEN we shall see who can run an airline and who can get into the take-over business, as consolidation sets in.
Let us say that no LCC had started at LTN, which is less than 20 minutes (average) drive for me. Would I have gone to GO at STN that is an hour and a quarter's drive from me - including the M25 - or would I have gone to LHR that is 40 mins away?
With road transport being so poor, I want to minimise the amount of time I spend using it. If the closer flight is more expensive, I have to have very good reasons to drive further. Families that have four or more tickets to buy and it is a once a year holiday, may have other criteria.
One of the factors that has (and is) fuelling the growth is opening up regional bases. In due course that source of growth will be saturated and THEN we shall see who can run an airline and who can get into the take-over business, as consolidation sets in.
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EZ in the red. Buzz ended in the red. Not sure about Ryanair yet.
Lufthansa is making profits. Air France is making profits. BA is making profits.
Maybe it took the market a while to balance between low cost and traditional airlines...
Lufthansa is making profits. Air France is making profits. BA is making profits.
Maybe it took the market a while to balance between low cost and traditional airlines...
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easy posted a half year operating loss prior to the most profitable time of the year. The summer. It is likely that as usual it will post a profit over the whole year.
The lowcost market is the future of short haul aviation in europe. Get with the program!
The lowcost market is the future of short haul aviation in europe. Get with the program!
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Engee 73
I believe you are correct. The future IS low cost. Unfortunately the public are becoming aware that easy are NOT low cost. Try booking LTN AGP and compare with Monarch (www.Flymonarch.com). Easy are often more expensive, both have new aircraft, Monarch do not sting you for food. The easy myth is dead.
I believe you are correct. The future IS low cost. Unfortunately the public are becoming aware that easy are NOT low cost. Try booking LTN AGP and compare with Monarch (www.Flymonarch.com). Easy are often more expensive, both have new aircraft, Monarch do not sting you for food. The easy myth is dead.
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NG puts in a pot of coffee....
sniff the aroma guys, 69 aircraft, 80%+ load factors, 128 aircraft on firm order, a bunch of committed and professional pilots and genarally happy pax.
Espresso or capucchino? (small charge naturally!)
The aroma is coffee, the flavour is orange.
Who is monarch anyway?
The webs favourite airline...now at an airport near you!
sniff the aroma guys, 69 aircraft, 80%+ load factors, 128 aircraft on firm order, a bunch of committed and professional pilots and genarally happy pax.
Espresso or capucchino? (small charge naturally!)
The aroma is coffee, the flavour is orange.
Who is monarch anyway?
The webs favourite airline...now at an airport near you!
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Easy sure is growing, high profile, big new fleet on order, competitors out for blood, just like Courtline, Laker, Air Europe. Same old story. A bubble waiting to burst.
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Whats the problem???
easyjet are always going to make money,so will ryanair,and hopefully so will the main carriers like Air France,British Airways etc,its all about advertising,i find it really sad that a lot of people here like to see companies fail,the same airlines that have made it possible for nearly everybody to fly,the same airlines that u and me use a lot,so what if the "low-fares" airlines are growing.at least they are providing thousands of jobs for many people,why not look on the positive side?????Everybody is going "low-cost".xxM.
