New Airline for Luton (merged)
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How about you all try and be a little positive to the new entrants. It may be a risky time to start an airline, but what time isn't risky? easyJet started with 2 clapped out B737-200's but they are still around and succesful. If NOW doesn't last, well, at least they have tried. Maybe Ryanair will buy them out like they did Buzz, which leads me on to the question, what about fair trading and competition in this crazy industry we call aviation.
Good luck to all at Fly-Now - maybe it might just work
Good luck to all at Fly-Now - maybe it might just work
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It looks to me that on some routes they are taking on the charter operators head to head. Interesting to see how long they will maintain their one price only policy - I supect until 2 weeks before the first flight leaves with 50 empty seats.
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I completely agree VIKING9 - and that was indeed my point.
No-one (well not many people) gave EZY much of a chance back in the 90s on startup, and despite predictions of imminent recession in the loco sector - they're still here and will probably remain...
PS - Don't get me wrong - I am neither employee, manangement or fan of EZY!
Eddie
No-one (well not many people) gave EZY much of a chance back in the 90s on startup, and despite predictions of imminent recession in the loco sector - they're still here and will probably remain...
PS - Don't get me wrong - I am neither employee, manangement or fan of EZY!
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Not a very inspiring management team of Directors for an airline.....looking at their CV's ask any of them what CAP 360 is and "errrr" will be the reply....
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Routes aren`t that strong and has competion on some of them.
Doubt MAN will last as Midland Main Line are going to start St Pancras to Manchester [LTN on that line], and they are keen that the service will be a top knotch business route.
TFS competes with Monarch and they have loyal customer base with many Time Share paxs via RCI.
JER only busy in summer months really and then there are the fog problems. Spare a/c needed to continue schedules. I remember BM having most of the DC9 `s stuck in JER after the fog came down one Sunday. There was real problems Monday morning with the GLA/EDI/BFS routes.
DUS, Rome [CIA/FCO??] and HAM will do OK. Debonair had good loads on both Rome and Dussledorf services.
Well be interesting to see how it goes.
Doubt MAN will last as Midland Main Line are going to start St Pancras to Manchester [LTN on that line], and they are keen that the service will be a top knotch business route.
TFS competes with Monarch and they have loyal customer base with many Time Share paxs via RCI.
JER only busy in summer months really and then there are the fog problems. Spare a/c needed to continue schedules. I remember BM having most of the DC9 `s stuck in JER after the fog came down one Sunday. There was real problems Monday morning with the GLA/EDI/BFS routes.
DUS, Rome [CIA/FCO??] and HAM will do OK. Debonair had good loads on both Rome and Dussledorf services.
Well be interesting to see how it goes.
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At our local choke and puke this is a sandwich.
A toasted English Muffin.
One piece of Canadian back bacon.
One medium cooked fried egg
One piece of plastic cheese.
Butter, what's that?
To go, To take-away. Free, limited time offer...with a slab of deep fried, minced, potato type product.
Tomato slice... give me a break.
A toasted English Muffin.
One piece of Canadian back bacon.
One medium cooked fried egg
One piece of plastic cheese.
Butter, what's that?
To go, To take-away. Free, limited time offer...with a slab of deep fried, minced, potato type product.
Tomato slice... give me a break.
Interestingly, GO looked at JSY a couple of years ago but binned the idea for exactly the reasons stated above.
Barbara Cassani has bought a pub in West London and is writing a book about GO.
I reckon that all the ex GO employees would like to see her take over at EZY if ever they kick out RW; unlikely, but she's got quite a following, and would doubtless be flooded with applicants if ever she got involved in another low cost airline.
Barbara Cassani has bought a pub in West London and is writing a book about GO.
I reckon that all the ex GO employees would like to see her take over at EZY if ever they kick out RW; unlikely, but she's got quite a following, and would doubtless be flooded with applicants if ever she got involved in another low cost airline.
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Anyone know who's AOC they will be using? Or are they applying for their own one?
I'm sure that EZY hold a licence for JER from LTN - anyone verify that
cheers
FF
I'm sure that EZY hold a licence for JER from LTN - anyone verify that
cheers
FF
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Interestingly, Flybe are starting daily JER-LTN from 15 April plus 3 x daily(sat only). Last summer, it was Saturdays only for the season. NOW will have competition before they even start.
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I doubt the Manchester - St Pancaras train service will ever get off the ground. The amount of money Virgin contribute to government coffers will block this.
If they can offer a reasonably priced route between Manchester and London it should be successful. There are currently cheap flights between MAN and LHR but getting into central London is either extortionate (Heathrow Express) or a nightmare (any other method).
Maybe competition from the West Coast mainline - slow, unreliable, overpriced,........ !!!!
If they can offer a reasonably priced route between Manchester and London it should be successful. There are currently cheap flights between MAN and LHR but getting into central London is either extortionate (Heathrow Express) or a nightmare (any other method).
Maybe competition from the West Coast mainline - slow, unreliable, overpriced,........ !!!!
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sisyphus1965 - I think you are wrong about the trains. The Manchester St Pancras train service was mandated by the Strategic Rail authority, specifically to provide rail capacity whilst bits of the west coast mine line are closed for upgrading later this year. So that service will definitely go ahead. In fact, trains formerly used by Virgin-rail have been re-allocated to MidlandMainLine specifically for this purpose.
Perhaps the cash-rich but time-short travellers from Manchester would take the VLM service to LCY. But for time-rich / cash-short travellers, surely the train (despite less than brilliant service levels) will be more cost effective most of the time.
Going back to theme, these guys have been very successful on the PR front. Lots of uncritical coverage on both tv and the papers over the last 24 hours.
Perhaps the cash-rich but time-short travellers from Manchester would take the VLM service to LCY. But for time-rich / cash-short travellers, surely the train (despite less than brilliant service levels) will be more cost effective most of the time.
Going back to theme, these guys have been very successful on the PR front. Lots of uncritical coverage on both tv and the papers over the last 24 hours.
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I wonder if NOW are applying for their own AOC or using Air Foyle's dormant B737-300 ticket. Afterall, they are still upstairs and quite able to reinstate the AOC if required. Just a thought.
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German LCC Germania has operated under a fixed fare system for 18 months now. They charge a fixed 55 / 99 € fare on their routes from TXL to MUC, FRA and PMI and offer an early morning and an evening flight on their "business routes" and a mid-day departure to holiday destinations. The very same concept Now has outlined. Germania will stick to this concept when their "new" Fokker 100s come online this summer. TCALSS, Germania has some experience with fixed fares and they seem to be sufficently convinced to introduce a fleet of Fokkers to expand the operation
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private airlines
I think that they rip you off!!!!!!!!!!!
I think that there is a number of private airlines that are oonly made up so as they can take your money.
there is a number of airlines like British Airways or AirFrance, these companies will have these private airlines that are set up just to take peoples money and run.
This is only my opinion but i think these companies should not have these companies.
I talk about these companies and my information comes from personal experiences
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I think that there is a number of private airlines that are oonly made up so as they can take your money.
there is a number of airlines like British Airways or AirFrance, these companies will have these private airlines that are set up just to take peoples money and run.
This is only my opinion but i think these companies should not have these companies.
I talk about these companies and my information comes from personal experiences
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I'm looking forward to hearing them on the R/T...
Now320, descend now FL180
Confirm you want Now320 to descend now?
Affirm, leave FL320 now, Now320
Leaving FL320 now, Now320
Now now, Now320, no need to repeat yourself
Now now yourself, Now320, we didn't!
Now320, be level FL180 at LATER
Now320, descending now, level LATER
Negative, descend NOW, Now320
Affirm, now320 leaving FL320 now, level LATER
Now320, what is your estimate for SOONE?
Estimating SOONE at 45, LATER first
Sorry, was that SOONE rather than LATER?
Reaching SOONE, then LATER, now320
etc., etc., ...
Now320, descend now FL180
Confirm you want Now320 to descend now?
Affirm, leave FL320 now, Now320
Leaving FL320 now, Now320
Now now, Now320, no need to repeat yourself
Now now yourself, Now320, we didn't!
Now320, be level FL180 at LATER
Now320, descending now, level LATER
Negative, descend NOW, Now320
Affirm, now320 leaving FL320 now, level LATER
Now320, what is your estimate for SOONE?
Estimating SOONE at 45, LATER first
Sorry, was that SOONE rather than LATER?
Reaching SOONE, then LATER, now320
etc., etc., ...
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ELondonPax,
Re uncritical media coverage, I saw the finance officer on the BBC2 Tv business programme, 'Working Lunch' yesterday, and the opinion of the BBC financial presenter was that Now's concept would not work.
Re uncritical media coverage, I saw the finance officer on the BBC2 Tv business programme, 'Working Lunch' yesterday, and the opinion of the BBC financial presenter was that Now's concept would not work.
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Slightly off subject but nevertheless relevant re increasing pax passing through LTN, does anyone know when work is due to start on the new dual carriageway link road from Jct 10 M1 direct into the airport CTA. If my memory is correct, I believe goverment funding was approved in Dec 2001 and construction work was to start early 2003 taking some 18/20 months to complete.