Flybe.com gets the Buzz!!
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Flybe.com gets the Buzz!!
They just said on BBC South Today that flybe is expected to announce this lunchtime that they will start three new routes out of Southampton to help fill the gap left by Mr. O' Leary at Bournemouth.
The three new routes will be Malaga, Murcia and Toulouse and are in addition to the new routes already announced from Southampton to Barcelona, Geneva, Milan and Nice.
Should give some comfort to the 50,000 who already booked on Buzz before MOL pulled the plug. Hope they make a success of it and give MOL something to think about... what aircraft they going to use though?
Good luck flybe!
The three new routes will be Malaga, Murcia and Toulouse and are in addition to the new routes already announced from Southampton to Barcelona, Geneva, Milan and Nice.
Should give some comfort to the 50,000 who already booked on Buzz before MOL pulled the plug. Hope they make a success of it and give MOL something to think about... what aircraft they going to use though?
Good luck flybe!
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Fares starting from £49 one way, and they call that low-cost? Whats the typical fare going to be? £150 rtn?
http://www.flybe.com/news/feb03.htm
http://www.flybe.com/news/feb03.htm
£49.00 o.w. sounds pretty good to me considering the a/c types operated. Fewer seats to divide the operating costs into.
My question is where will all the pax check-in cos SOU only has a small check-in area, not to mention limited ramp space to park the a/c.
My question is where will all the pax check-in cos SOU only has a small check-in area, not to mention limited ramp space to park the a/c.
Surely,
I would have thought it would cope ok, provided all of these flights aren't checking in at the same time (unlikely as I guess we are talking 1 rotation per day on each route, using a couple of based a/c?)....they seem to manage ok with the 737/A320/757 charters during the Summer.
There also usually seem to be a couple of stands (the ones alongside the new Multi-storey) that are rarely used except during the busiest parts of the day.
I assume BEE will be using the 146 for these routes? - will they make it to Malaga & Murcia with a fullish load one wonders?
Good luck to them anyway - I've already booked to JER in Sept, £53 per head return, including all the "charges".
I would have thought it would cope ok, provided all of these flights aren't checking in at the same time (unlikely as I guess we are talking 1 rotation per day on each route, using a couple of based a/c?)....they seem to manage ok with the 737/A320/757 charters during the Summer.
There also usually seem to be a couple of stands (the ones alongside the new Multi-storey) that are rarely used except during the busiest parts of the day.
I assume BEE will be using the 146 for these routes? - will they make it to Malaga & Murcia with a fullish load one wonders?
Good luck to them anyway - I've already booked to JER in Sept, £53 per head return, including all the "charges".
The stands alongside the new multi storey are quite restricted in a/c type that can use them due to possible interference with the ILS by tail structure etc.
I wish them well, I have always found Fly.be and its predecessors to be good to work with.
I wish them well, I have always found Fly.be and its predecessors to be good to work with.
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The 146 has the range to serve the Spanish destinations, it'll just take a little longer than a 737.
Also, you'd be surprised what the max range of a Dash 8 is, Geneva's well within range.
OK quick trivia question anyone know the longest non-stop passenger turboprop service in Western Europe?
Also, you'd be surprised what the max range of a Dash 8 is, Geneva's well within range.
OK quick trivia question anyone know the longest non-stop passenger turboprop service in Western Europe?
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Eurostar - FlyBE currently operate a winter charter MANALC and over the summer also have BHXAGP so the routes out of Southampton should be within reach of the 146. I accept that SOU runway is of a reduced length but FlyBE have even operated GCIAGP in the past with the 146-200 seating 97pax.
It may also suprise you that even the D8-Q400 can operate both SOUMJV and AGP routes if required but may suffer from a reduced payload on the return journey, and FlyBE currently operate BHXBRN with a D8-Q200. Thats a 2.5hr sector on a 37seat prop, that said, the charterers are very happy with it!
It may also suprise you that even the D8-Q400 can operate both SOUMJV and AGP routes if required but may suffer from a reduced payload on the return journey, and FlyBE currently operate BHXBRN with a D8-Q200. Thats a 2.5hr sector on a 37seat prop, that said, the charterers are very happy with it!
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At least someone gave it a thought!!
The longest (in terms of Great Circle Distance at 908 nm / 1045 sm / 1682 km) is ARN - GVA with SAS with a Dash8-400. Block time is upto 3 hours 15 minutes.
If you think it should be measured in block time then the longest is CPH - MPL (GCD = 795 nm / 915 sm / 1473 km) which on a Cimber ATR72 is scheduled at 3 hours 50 minutes.
By way of contrast SOU - GVA (in terms of GCD) is only 409 nm / 471 sm / 758 km I would guess this would be around 1 hour 50 minutes.
Source: OAG MAX Feb 03
At least someone gave it a thought!!
The longest (in terms of Great Circle Distance at 908 nm / 1045 sm / 1682 km) is ARN - GVA with SAS with a Dash8-400. Block time is upto 3 hours 15 minutes.
If you think it should be measured in block time then the longest is CPH - MPL (GCD = 795 nm / 915 sm / 1473 km) which on a Cimber ATR72 is scheduled at 3 hours 50 minutes.
By way of contrast SOU - GVA (in terms of GCD) is only 409 nm / 471 sm / 758 km I would guess this would be around 1 hour 50 minutes.
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just reading on teletext travel (pg: 1717) that there will be will ten new routes from Southampton this summer. It mentioned that Skybus were starting from Southampton where are they flying too?
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right just to set any querying minds straight from someone thats in the know. before the addition of the extra 3 routes to cover those who buzzed off flybe were planning to operate as follows. on 146 (based at sou) will do sou-dub-sou-gva-sou-dub another dh8q400 also based at sou will do sou-bhd-sou-jer-sou-dub-sou-bhd-sou and the other dh8400 will be based in jer doing jer-sou-jer-sou-bgy-sou-jer-sou-jer we shouldn't have a problem with space as at the mo we have 7 nightstoppers and one dh8 goes when bacx pull the dub route so that will leave us with 8 nightstoppers for 9 reasonably useable stands. it also shouldn't mean more than 7 a/c at any one time during the busy periods. with regards to c/i desks we have 14 so should be able to bear the brunt without too much trouble.(providing we can find the staff from somewhere!!) as for the runway. with the 146 and q400 being pretty much designed for airports with disgustingly short runways we hope it wont be a problem but we shant hold our breath. (have not yet been able to take a full load on the atp to man due runway restrictions!) hope this helps????
part timer, how do the Fly.be STD's fit with the BACitX? My recollection was that all the early morning pax arrived within 30 minutes of closure and the queues were spectacular on a monday morn and friday afternoon. Should be very interesting when you throw in the sumer charters and a couple fo a/c dlyd due tech or wx!!
Good luck to everyone, hope you get the staff you need as a handling agent.
Good luck to everyone, hope you get the staff you need as a handling agent.
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well there will be an extra a/c in the first rush at 5am (z) which will indeed mean more queues on a monday morning and more delays due inept de-icing in the winter (if they last that long) and then ourmain rush periods are 0830 1000 1400 1700 and 1900 so 2 extra a/c at 0930 one at 1100 1255 etc shouldnt cause too much hassle might just be at 0600 and 1700 that we have a problem but with the extra staff it should be just about bearable!
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SOU-AGP/TLS/MJV
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Do the new routes to Malaga, Toulouse and Murcia all operate using the same 146-200? The timings on the be.com website didn't quite fit a one a/c operation last time I looked.
Do the new routes to Malaga, Toulouse and Murcia all operate using the same 146-200? The timings on the be.com website didn't quite fit a one a/c operation last time I looked.
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hmm
not too sure. you'll like this but we didn't know they were even going to ops it until the rest of the world knew. not even sure they're aware of what a/c they're using yet! they were originally just supposed to add nce bcn and tls but obviously thought they'd capitalise on buzz a the last minute. i'll find out tom if u wanna know!
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ta parttimer....not that I'm suspicious or anything but they seem to be happily taking punters' money before they have timings sorted
e.g. some of the booking systems (I use itn.net cos it shows the seats left in each class) show TLS and AGP but not MJV.
AGP still says in itn.net the rather nice timings for bucket n spaders of
BE1679 SOU1045-AGP1430
BE1678 AGP1055-SOU1240
while it has now changed on the be.com site to
BE1679 SOU0640-AGP1025
BE1678 AGP1055-SOU1240
which at least fits with
BE1705 SOU1330-TLS1615
BE1706 TLS1645-SOU1730
but not
BE1607 SOU1620-MJV1945
BE1608 MJV2020-SOU2155
unless they are pulling one of the previously mentioned services, are finding yet another a/c (thus double parking overnight?) or using smoke and mirrors. I can't see the MJV flight leaving SOU after 1800 as - even if the 146 doesn't fall to bits with overwork - it will not get back to SOU until midnight which presumably is a no-no.
e.g. some of the booking systems (I use itn.net cos it shows the seats left in each class) show TLS and AGP but not MJV.
AGP still says in itn.net the rather nice timings for bucket n spaders of
BE1679 SOU1045-AGP1430
BE1678 AGP1055-SOU1240
while it has now changed on the be.com site to
BE1679 SOU0640-AGP1025
BE1678 AGP1055-SOU1240
which at least fits with
BE1705 SOU1330-TLS1615
BE1706 TLS1645-SOU1730
but not
BE1607 SOU1620-MJV1945
BE1608 MJV2020-SOU2155
unless they are pulling one of the previously mentioned services, are finding yet another a/c (thus double parking overnight?) or using smoke and mirrors. I can't see the MJV flight leaving SOU after 1800 as - even if the 146 doesn't fall to bits with overwork - it will not get back to SOU until midnight which presumably is a no-no.