EDI top Scottish airport again
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EDI top Scottish airport again
BAA figures out this morning
The overall parity gap has now dropped below 800K.
Perhaps BAA might now offer airlines and tour operators a
19% EDI summer discount to keep it top dog?
The overall parity gap has now dropped below 800K.
Perhaps BAA might now offer airlines and tour operators a
19% EDI summer discount to keep it top dog?
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GustyOrange,
What that got to do with the price of eggs. I think you are just showing yourself up as Joe's opposite number on the west coast.
By the way i think the title for the thread is misleading.
What that got to do with the price of eggs. I think you are just showing yourself up as Joe's opposite number on the west coast.
By the way i think the title for the thread is misleading.
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>>Get a life, Joe, before it's too late!<<
I find it increasingly difficult to accept all this west coast back-slapping on "GLA this and GLA that". The figures surely speak
for themselves.?
There appears to be windshear in all the bragging and
boasting...you guys should ease up on the hot air.
Accept the figures and debate them, it could be GLA in the lead,
what would you be saying then.?
Find a quite corner and accept the inevitable.....
I find it increasingly difficult to accept all this west coast back-slapping on "GLA this and GLA that". The figures surely speak
for themselves.?
There appears to be windshear in all the bragging and
boasting...you guys should ease up on the hot air.
Accept the figures and debate them, it could be GLA in the lead,
what would you be saying then.?
Find a quite corner and accept the inevitable.....
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Am afraid we cant knock edinburgh they are doing very well at the moment but what has got to be remembered is Glasgow and Edinburgh operate in 2 very different ways, Glasgow's market is more at leisure i.e. charter flights using generally larger aircraft which glasgow can handle without any relative fuss, where as edinburgh's market taps into the business passenger hence more aeroplanes smaller sizes so in effect more TM's and in winter more passenger numbers.
The trouble with edinburgh as everyone knows is it cant keep going the way it is right now without significant investmant and l dont just mean parallel taxiways which are desperately needed btw, no l mean more stands and better terminal layout. But these things wont happen overnight so in effect Edinburgh has a long way to go before it can be taking the mantle as Scotland's number 1 airport.
As said in an earlier post yes you do have to take into consideration prestwick's passenger numbers to have an objective viewpoint as where is edinburgh's competition.... dundee??
l personally feel that the BAA should be stripped of the management of 1 of the 2 airports as l feel they are now trying to asset strip 1 from the other and no prizes for guessing which one it is.
At the end of the day its good to see aviation in scotland prospering and am trying to remain as impartial as possible but my allegiance does tend to lean to the west but would love to see both airports doing really well.
Oh and Joe do try and not step up the rettorick in every post you make about the 2 airports, your bitter analogies give you a credibility rating of zero.
l bid you goodday!
Del Boy!
The trouble with edinburgh as everyone knows is it cant keep going the way it is right now without significant investmant and l dont just mean parallel taxiways which are desperately needed btw, no l mean more stands and better terminal layout. But these things wont happen overnight so in effect Edinburgh has a long way to go before it can be taking the mantle as Scotland's number 1 airport.
As said in an earlier post yes you do have to take into consideration prestwick's passenger numbers to have an objective viewpoint as where is edinburgh's competition.... dundee??
l personally feel that the BAA should be stripped of the management of 1 of the 2 airports as l feel they are now trying to asset strip 1 from the other and no prizes for guessing which one it is.
At the end of the day its good to see aviation in scotland prospering and am trying to remain as impartial as possible but my allegiance does tend to lean to the west but would love to see both airports doing really well.
Oh and Joe do try and not step up the rettorick in every post you make about the 2 airports, your bitter analogies give you a credibility rating of zero.
l bid you goodday!
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"The point is surely that GLA has competition (PIK) and a good thing too; EDI does not."
A fact which Joe Curry is incapable and unwilling to acknowledge in his one man band battle for EDI supremecy.
Most replies to his anti-GLA posts are met with the derision which they undoubtably deserve, in fact he should keep this nonsense to his Usenet ng and not bother the professionals in here with it, people who know oh so much better than to stir up conflict,
SF
A fact which Joe Curry is incapable and unwilling to acknowledge in his one man band battle for EDI supremecy.
Most replies to his anti-GLA posts are met with the derision which they undoubtably deserve, in fact he should keep this nonsense to his Usenet ng and not bother the professionals in here with it, people who know oh so much better than to stir up conflict,
SF
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but when will EDI join the 'proper airports league' with a full-length parallel taxiway?
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I think it's time people in Scotland got real about these petty Edinburgh - Glasgow arguments, not just in the field of air travel.
Scotland is a very small nation in world terms, and Glasgow and Edinburgh are both small cities even in UK terms. So for both cities to prosper and the country as a whole to do well, we really need to work together, rather than spend all day sniping at each other.
That's why, even as a Weegie, I'd be perfectly happy driving to Edinburgh for a direct flight to Europe or further afield. Or even better, taking a direct express train from Central or Queen St. It's a damn sight more convenient than a hop down to London or Manchester to connect with another flight.
The root of the whole problem is really that the land based transport infrastructure in Scotland is shocking. Driving in Edinburgh is a nightmare, the M8 lacks capacity, the M74 around Glasgow is still not complete, and the train lines are a joke. Getting the Glasgow - Edinburgh express at rush hour is as bad as the London tube.
I saw an article a few months ago which suggested that for central Scotland to compete on a world stage, what we need was not two cities and some towns in the middle but one urban metropolis. If the whole area was better integrated with a really fast, regular rail service and co-ordinated bus or tram routes, we would have less problems with overheated property markets in small areas and inflexibility in the labour markets.
This argument makes a lot of sense to me but what it requires is coherent transport links across central Scotland.
Why not have an express line running from GLA into Glasgow city centre then onwards along the existing line to Edinburgh but diverting via EDI as suggested by the recent consultants report.
Tying the two airports together in this manner would hopefully eradicate a lot of the rivalry and if baggage handling between the airports could be slickly managed there would be the possiblity of checking in at either airport, in a similar manner to the way passengers are able to check in at Paddington for Heathrow flights.
Who knows we might even be able to rename the two airports as one central Scotland airport (but there'd probably be a fight over who was Terminal 1)
Scotland is a very small nation in world terms, and Glasgow and Edinburgh are both small cities even in UK terms. So for both cities to prosper and the country as a whole to do well, we really need to work together, rather than spend all day sniping at each other.
That's why, even as a Weegie, I'd be perfectly happy driving to Edinburgh for a direct flight to Europe or further afield. Or even better, taking a direct express train from Central or Queen St. It's a damn sight more convenient than a hop down to London or Manchester to connect with another flight.
The root of the whole problem is really that the land based transport infrastructure in Scotland is shocking. Driving in Edinburgh is a nightmare, the M8 lacks capacity, the M74 around Glasgow is still not complete, and the train lines are a joke. Getting the Glasgow - Edinburgh express at rush hour is as bad as the London tube.
I saw an article a few months ago which suggested that for central Scotland to compete on a world stage, what we need was not two cities and some towns in the middle but one urban metropolis. If the whole area was better integrated with a really fast, regular rail service and co-ordinated bus or tram routes, we would have less problems with overheated property markets in small areas and inflexibility in the labour markets.
This argument makes a lot of sense to me but what it requires is coherent transport links across central Scotland.
Why not have an express line running from GLA into Glasgow city centre then onwards along the existing line to Edinburgh but diverting via EDI as suggested by the recent consultants report.
Tying the two airports together in this manner would hopefully eradicate a lot of the rivalry and if baggage handling between the airports could be slickly managed there would be the possiblity of checking in at either airport, in a similar manner to the way passengers are able to check in at Paddington for Heathrow flights.
Who knows we might even be able to rename the two airports as one central Scotland airport (but there'd probably be a fight over who was Terminal 1)
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Right on cue, the Evening Times illustrates my point nicely. Anyone know much about this company?
Evening Times 14/01/2003
A MAJOR German low-cost carrier is to introduce a new service from Edinburgh to Cologne.
The move by Germanwings, the country's biggest budget airline will open up cheap connections for tourists through Cologne to cities in central and eastern Europe such as Vienna, Istanbul, Berlin, Prague, Venice and Milan.
The route will also compete for business travellers to Germany with Ryanair's flights from Prestwick to Frankfurt.
Evening Times 14/01/2003
A MAJOR German low-cost carrier is to introduce a new service from Edinburgh to Cologne.
The move by Germanwings, the country's biggest budget airline will open up cheap connections for tourists through Cologne to cities in central and eastern Europe such as Vienna, Istanbul, Berlin, Prague, Venice and Milan.
The route will also compete for business travellers to Germany with Ryanair's flights from Prestwick to Frankfurt.
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sparkymarky: I agree entirely! Finally someone in the central belt with a bit of sense! The situation you mentioned is not quite as ideal as a single central belt airport, butt his is just simply not feasable. If people had more sense 20+ years ago the situation could have been rectified before too much money was spent. The solution to the naming problem is simple, just call them East terminal and West terminal!
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Why do they insist on calling Glasgow airport 'international' when about the only other country you can get a scheduled flight to is England? It's little more than a regional airport in world terms. Edinburgh is not much better. Shame it takes longer to taxi from one end to the other than it takes to fly from one end of the county to the other.
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Exactly Firestorm. That's why I'd like to see everyone pulling together to make both airports more successful - for the good of the country - rather than sniping at each other in the manner of local politicians.