EASYJET to take over AIRLIB EXPRESS
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EASYJET to take over AIRLIB EXPRESS
A deal involving AIRBUS and the French government for the take over of AIR LIB EXPRESS and its numerous slots at ORLY if Easy finaly buy Airbusses.
The famous Flying Dutchman beeing just a screen of smoke...
The famous Flying Dutchman beeing just a screen of smoke...
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I'd love to know what this rumour is based on! Under EU law, the Government cannot protect it by pumping money into it, and why buy Air Lib when it is going so badly after reinventing itself? Easy will probably get what's left of it for free!!! The Airbus deal will be completed next month when the Board approves.
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Baron Rouge,
I heard this rumour a while ago but cannot see it being true.
Yes, easyJet would love more slots at Paris. They will probably get some anyway (perhaps gradually) without having to take over an inefficient and loss-making operation with all the issues that would involve.....Air Lib's days are numbered (certainly in their current form) and any type of downsizing or re-structuring will release slots.
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I heard this rumour a while ago but cannot see it being true.
Yes, easyJet would love more slots at Paris. They will probably get some anyway (perhaps gradually) without having to take over an inefficient and loss-making operation with all the issues that would involve.....Air Lib's days are numbered (certainly in their current form) and any type of downsizing or re-structuring will release slots.
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Hey "baron Rouge"
Nice way to start a rumor, to give (?) it some substance on Pprune, then to come back with it on the french downgraded equivalent of this forum, and try to dream about it...
But who would buy any part of the ill-fated AirLib, and especially its highly-unionised crew and associated ground staff, with their french-famous "35 hrs" ?
They digged their own grave by themselves long ago.
Nice way to start a rumor, to give (?) it some substance on Pprune, then to come back with it on the french downgraded equivalent of this forum, and try to dream about it...
But who would buy any part of the ill-fated AirLib, and especially its highly-unionised crew and associated ground staff, with their french-famous "35 hrs" ?
They digged their own grave by themselves long ago.
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Who said it will be costly for easy ?
Anyway if they don't buy it they will only get less than 10 of the slots, so you bet ???
So much for bad french management of AIR LIB, our last two owners were BA, than SWISSAIR
Anyway if they don't buy it they will only get less than 10 of the slots, so you bet ???
So much for bad french management of AIR LIB, our last two owners were BA, than SWISSAIR
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dear Recceguy,
You must be a reader of the Sun and all crap Brit papers of that kind.
First of all we are far less unionised than any Brit Airline !
Second, dispite our "famous 35 hours" we work under JAR regulation, and for much less money than Easy Jet pilots
Third, we did not dig our own grave, but BRITISH AIRWAYS did that for us when he was our owner he did not invest a single penny in the company and took over our slots at Heathrow and Gatwick, and than SWISSAIR ripped us of the money that was left in the company.
So , BE SERIOUS MAN !!!
You must be a reader of the Sun and all crap Brit papers of that kind.
First of all we are far less unionised than any Brit Airline !
Second, dispite our "famous 35 hours" we work under JAR regulation, and for much less money than Easy Jet pilots
Third, we did not dig our own grave, but BRITISH AIRWAYS did that for us when he was our owner he did not invest a single penny in the company and took over our slots at Heathrow and Gatwick, and than SWISSAIR ripped us of the money that was left in the company.
So , BE SERIOUS MAN !!!
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AirLib have potentially such a great opportunity if they ever decide what they want to be - for at the moment they are a low cost airline, a long haul full service airline, a charter airline, and a regional commuter airline.
In its current state, easyJet shouldn't touch them (AirLibExpress)with a bargepole, as a punter (based on flying ORY-NCE/ORY-TLS last summer) they are, at best, acceptable at E29-, only. The MD80's they fly are in a state inside with bits falling off seat fittings, BA world image seat covers in some of them, easily 10 different liveries. The crew also came in a variety of guises, of four cabin crew on one flight, two were in BA/Air Liberté uniform (world images,speedmarques et al), and two were in different AOM uniforms!
I am possibly biased as they cancelled both sectors of a day trip from Orly to Toulouse, and judging from the check-in at Toulouse, this wasn't too uncommon.
Sooner or later, easyJet's time will come in France....
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In its current state, easyJet shouldn't touch them (AirLibExpress)with a bargepole, as a punter (based on flying ORY-NCE/ORY-TLS last summer) they are, at best, acceptable at E29-, only. The MD80's they fly are in a state inside with bits falling off seat fittings, BA world image seat covers in some of them, easily 10 different liveries. The crew also came in a variety of guises, of four cabin crew on one flight, two were in BA/Air Liberté uniform (world images,speedmarques et al), and two were in different AOM uniforms!
I am possibly biased as they cancelled both sectors of a day trip from Orly to Toulouse, and judging from the check-in at Toulouse, this wasn't too uncommon.
Sooner or later, easyJet's time will come in France....
WT
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"and than SWISSAIR ripped us of the money that was left in the company"
Well that just isn't true! Swissair poured in horrendous sums of money for months, just to keep the airline afloat (they did this with other marode carriers too, which contributed mainly to their downfall).
Well that just isn't true! Swissair poured in horrendous sums of money for months, just to keep the airline afloat (they did this with other marode carriers too, which contributed mainly to their downfall).
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Isn't it strange that the pilots in SN complained that Swiss invested all their money in new aircraft and now I learn of pilots in Air Lib who complain that there was no investment...
Probably to do with the fact that in both cases it was not clear who owned what and who was paying for it in the end. Good flight deck topic though... a bit like my son complaining that his school is not run properly financially ( he is six ).
Probably to do with the fact that in both cases it was not clear who owned what and who was paying for it in the end. Good flight deck topic though... a bit like my son complaining that his school is not run properly financially ( he is six ).
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Dear Baron Rouge
I usually read the Daily Telegraph.
The two previous gentlemen issued quite sensible comments, from consumer point of view.
By the way, I'm not british, just french, also available in the good stands like Radiocockpit.
I usually read the Daily Telegraph.
The two previous gentlemen issued quite sensible comments, from consumer point of view.
By the way, I'm not british, just french, also available in the good stands like Radiocockpit.
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isn't it funny that a guy like Few Cloudy, that knows nothing about AIR LIB or SWISSAIR contribute to assert SWISSAIR propaganda about the fortune they suposedly invested into AIRLIB.
I will just give you an exemple of the way SWISSAIR acted with AIRLIB :
We had a perfectly working computer system. They came in forced AIRLIB to change all the computers and all the sofware, for ten time the public price, all this of course to a SWISSAIR subsidiary and it came in with GERMAN KEYBORDS !!!
For SABENA, they had brand new BOEINGS and they had to change to AIRBUS all the gratuities of the contracts beeing of course for SWISSAIR.
So please check your sources !!!
I will just give you an exemple of the way SWISSAIR acted with AIRLIB :
We had a perfectly working computer system. They came in forced AIRLIB to change all the computers and all the sofware, for ten time the public price, all this of course to a SWISSAIR subsidiary and it came in with GERMAN KEYBORDS !!!
For SABENA, they had brand new BOEINGS and they had to change to AIRBUS all the gratuities of the contracts beeing of course for SWISSAIR.
So please check your sources !!!
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Well ! if Klinky made it to an Easy Jet cockpit, anybody can
More seriously, you have a point there Colonel, my poor command of English language may lead you to think that I am embittered (I had to look the chip on the shoulder thing in a dictionary
)
But you are not exactly right it is just that :
I CANNOT STAND THOSE SMART FELLOW PILOTS SPREADING SWISSAIR MANAGEMENT BULL...T.
Telling that if an Airline go bust, the employees deserve it is grossly unfair.
Soon in an Easy Jet Cockpit
More seriously, you have a point there Colonel, my poor command of English language may lead you to think that I am embittered (I had to look the chip on the shoulder thing in a dictionary
)But you are not exactly right it is just that :
I CANNOT STAND THOSE SMART FELLOW PILOTS SPREADING SWISSAIR MANAGEMENT BULL...T.
Telling that if an Airline go bust, the employees deserve it is grossly unfair.
Soon in an Easy Jet Cockpit
