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You beleive that people will put up with any sort of appalling service as long as there is a cheap ticket at the end of it, and sadly in some respects you`re right...Palmair however have never taken your jaundiced view and offer everything that you dont.......no wonder you want them to roll over and die........
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Palmair Predictions
Ryanair will be successful in pushing Palmair out of much of the traditional Palmair BOH markets.. ALC, AGP already gone, would expect Canaries & Faro to disappear from Palmair too... but there is a market for what Palmair do. No point in battling RYR head to head though on the high volume bucket and spade stuff. But Palmair's PMI might just survive..
RYR will also push TFly out of BOH too - this year probably.
Palmair just need to adapt. They will - but I don't see any growth on the radar. I predict more 'exotic' Palmair destinations instead.. e.g. Red Sea, Morocco, Cyprus, focussing on the higher end customers. That will leave RYR happy, and Palmair in their silver surfers niche.
...so Palmair will probably be looking for a longer range aircraft capability, and 120-150 seats.. A319 or 737-700, especially if it could also serve some of the nearer cruise charters that their parent Bath Travel have made core business. The Palmair challenge as ever will be to generate enough work to keep one aircraft viably busy.
Interesting to watch this play out.
FF
RYR will also push TFly out of BOH too - this year probably.
Palmair just need to adapt. They will - but I don't see any growth on the radar. I predict more 'exotic' Palmair destinations instead.. e.g. Red Sea, Morocco, Cyprus, focussing on the higher end customers. That will leave RYR happy, and Palmair in their silver surfers niche.
...so Palmair will probably be looking for a longer range aircraft capability, and 120-150 seats.. A319 or 737-700, especially if it could also serve some of the nearer cruise charters that their parent Bath Travel have made core business. The Palmair challenge as ever will be to generate enough work to keep one aircraft viably busy.
Interesting to watch this play out.
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RYR will also push TFly out of BOH too - this year probably.
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jonanddot22: viking - wouldn't fly them if you paid me. flyglobespan - if all the comments on here are to be taken seriously the only a/c Palmair could 'fit' with is their sole B736 parked up at EMA
todays young people will be tomorrows old people. But remember they are growing up with LCC's. And therefore understand that getting from A to B safely, reliably and cheaply is ALL that matters. i doubt that will change when they are decrepit. Perhaps a better hotel. perhaps a luxury car. But save on the flight. it's common bloody sense.
Its only the current old generation who expect more from flying as flying represented true luxury when THEY were growing up.
come on, you know i'm right.
todays young people will be tomorrows old people. But remember they are growing up with LCC's. And therefore understand that getting from A to B safely, reliably and cheaply is ALL that matters. i doubt that will change when they are decrepit. Perhaps a better hotel. perhaps a luxury car. But save on the flight. it's common bloody sense.
Its only the current old generation who expect more from flying as flying represented true luxury when THEY were growing up.
come on, you know i'm right.
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Your comments on Viking and Globespan are very mild and uncontroversial! Perhaps you are mellowing with age! I expected something much harder hitting than that. The problem with your comments is that many may have some truth about them BUT what a miserable world you live in where only you must succeed at all cost to others .You should learn to live together and alongside people like Palmair who have helped to keep this airport going thro the thin times and have earned the respect and loyalty of many local travellers - when you were nowhere to be seen! Both airlines, and others, have a useful function - even if they have to avoid you, and you would be better appreciated by all if you could get your brain round this. BUT of course you don,t care do you - as I said what sad and boring world you would have us live in.
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Hola once had a base in NCL with a 733, somewhat varied opinions on service and not the best track record for OTP! Hopefully Palmair will be ok with Hola - a well run, small company is a rarity in the UK these days.
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jonanddot22 - sorry to disappoint re viking and flyglobespan. But these carriers are not going to be around in the future - thus didnt want to waste my time commenting on them.
HOLA AIRLINES
Fleet 1- B734 (168 seats), 4- B733 (138 seats). They have also operated the A320 and B757
I have no idea about their safety or reliability. I know i would rather fly my own airline than Hola though... Palmair are putting themselves in a perfect situation for a fall with these guys. Hola's financial circumstances are certainly a concern.
I agree that life is more interesting with variety. If Palmair had their own AOC and were operating as a stand-alone carrier with their own aircraft and employees (Flight deck) i might have a different opinion.
HOLA AIRLINES
Fleet 1- B734 (168 seats), 4- B733 (138 seats). They have also operated the A320 and B757
I have no idea about their safety or reliability. I know i would rather fly my own airline than Hola though... Palmair are putting themselves in a perfect situation for a fall with these guys. Hola's financial circumstances are certainly a concern.
I agree that life is more interesting with variety. If Palmair had their own AOC and were operating as a stand-alone carrier with their own aircraft and employees (Flight deck) i might have a different opinion.
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I wonder who will be crewing the aircraft for Hola airlines, and by that i mean both flight deck and cabin crew, does anybody know ????
I quite fancy a cabin crew job this summer out of Bournemouth and i will be interested to hear from anybody in the loop.
Cheers for now
I quite fancy a cabin crew job this summer out of Bournemouth and i will be interested to hear from anybody in the loop.
Cheers for now
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Palmair will not be using Hola airlines !
Viking is the carrier to be used from April onwards , they would have continued to use Jet 2 but there aircraft is required back into scheduled service but served a very valuable link this winter continuing the operation for Palmair after the collapse of European Aviation
Viking airlines has been sourced for the summer season with Palmair cabin crew operating the cabin service with all the usual little extra s that the customers have come to expect ie. legroom , quality of in flight meals , fresh flowers in the loos ! ( i know it sounds mad ) and general good customer service , which people of all ages are still prepared to pay for !
There is room in the market at Bournemouth for both low cost carriers and Palmair , people still want a package holiday and everything that comes with it and Palmair provide that
I agree that Ryanair and Thomson have seen Palmair off on quite a few routes but they will continue to hold there own even in tough times as they are a well managed operation and with the addition of this new aircraft it will open up some new routes hopefully like Cyprus and Egypt next winter
Good luck to them
Viking is the carrier to be used from April onwards , they would have continued to use Jet 2 but there aircraft is required back into scheduled service but served a very valuable link this winter continuing the operation for Palmair after the collapse of European Aviation
Viking airlines has been sourced for the summer season with Palmair cabin crew operating the cabin service with all the usual little extra s that the customers have come to expect ie. legroom , quality of in flight meals , fresh flowers in the loos ! ( i know it sounds mad ) and general good customer service , which people of all ages are still prepared to pay for !
There is room in the market at Bournemouth for both low cost carriers and Palmair , people still want a package holiday and everything that comes with it and Palmair provide that
I agree that Ryanair and Thomson have seen Palmair off on quite a few routes but they will continue to hold there own even in tough times as they are a well managed operation and with the addition of this new aircraft it will open up some new routes hopefully like Cyprus and Egypt next winter
Good luck to them
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interesting article on Viking
http://uk.vikingairlines.com/documen...world_2009.pdf
(Airliner world article on Viking)
BOH aircraft will most likely be a B737-300 being delivered in March or April
will this be in Palmair or Viking colours? They are linked to KISS airlines with their own booking engine. I wonder if they will also add BOH to the booking engine - will help Palmair get more flight only pax if they do.
(Airliner world article on Viking)
BOH aircraft will most likely be a B737-300 being delivered in March or April
will this be in Palmair or Viking colours? They are linked to KISS airlines with their own booking engine. I wonder if they will also add BOH to the booking engine - will help Palmair get more flight only pax if they do.