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Old 25th May 2024, 19:56
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In fact Airbus developed a tent to make engine changes in hostile climate environments possible.
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Old 25th May 2024, 21:29
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Let’s be clear

Storm Aviation have a licence to undertake line maintenance on the a380. To get a licence for base maintenance they would have to have a hangar they can pull the aircraft into, which they haven’t got.
So unless they very quickly build a hangar surely the aircraft is going somewhere else?
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Old 25th May 2024, 22:33
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Originally Posted by jethro15
854 posts on this topic yet there is no ‘concrete’ evidence that this was ever a sustainable proposal.
What makes this one different is that it appears around 140 people had enough confidence in it to give Holiday Swap Group Limited over £20m to keep it going.

The UK companies have filed only unaudited abridged accounts with no profit & loss statement so far.

Global have a chance to change opinion by filing *audited* 2023 accounts for both companies, with the detail an investor might expect, and soon rather than leaving it near the deadline.
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Old 26th May 2024, 21:49
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Assuming it was flown on a Permit to Fly and possibly limited to 2 flight cycles as part of that Permit to Fly, OK, BYJ does not have customs but it can be arranged so I would have thought it more practical to route YUL-BYJ and not via PIK. It's 300nm or so longer but why route to PIK when there is no maintenance support for an A380? My guess, just a guess, it did not have UKCAA approval and now it's on UK soil, the UKCAA will be all over it. They can be like a dog with a bone when dealing with these types of flights.
As has been remarked on previously, there was another flight plan filed for the same day that the aircraft arrived in PIK, this one for BYJ-MLA.

My assumption (and I'm happy to be proven wrong) was that the plan was for the aircraft to route YUL-BYJ (and then on to Malta, which has A380 maintenance capability), but that a combination of adverse winds and gear down required a divert to PIK.
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Old 26th May 2024, 22:47
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Originally Posted by Mr Jetlag
As has been remarked on previously, there was another flight plan filed for the same day that the aircraft arrived in PIK, this one for BYJ-MLA.

My assumption (and I'm happy to be proven wrong) was that the plan was for the aircraft to route YUL-BYJ (and then on to Malta, which has A380 maintenance capability), but that a combination of adverse winds and gear down required a divert to PIK.
Seem to remember FR24 was showing its flight from YUL to be headed for PIK almost immediately after departure from YUL. Granted, FR24 can be inaccurate, but it suggests that PIK was the FPL destination and not, at least, an in-flight diversion. On the GC, PIK is 350nm closer to YUL than BYJ.
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Old 26th May 2024, 23:30
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Originally Posted by AircraftOperations
Seem to remember FR24 was showing its flight from YUL to be headed for PIK almost immediately after departure from YUL. Granted, FR24 can be inaccurate, but it suggests that PIK was the FPL destination and not, at least, an in-flight diversion. On the GC, PIK is 350nm closer to YUL than BYJ.
That's correct. The next flight shown on FR24 was BYJ-MLA, but oddly, no filed connection between PIK and BYJ. What I found significant was the fact that within an hour the crew were on their way to LIS in the company jet. Clearly there was no intention to night-stop, so one has to wonder what exactly the plan was, or whether plan A was scrapped, but there was no plan B.
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Old 27th May 2024, 00:54
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What I found significant was the fact that within an hour the crew were on their way to LIS in the company jet.
Like I continually say, some on this forum folk have seen through this this debacle..

There are no PIK APPROVED facilities for A380 maintenance.

I await the the next 'LinkedIn' post in response!
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Old 27th May 2024, 06:10
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Originally Posted by AircraftOperations
Seem to remember FR24 was showing its flight from YUL to be headed for PIK almost immediately after departure from YUL. Granted, FR24 can be inaccurate, but it suggests that PIK was the FPL destination and not, at least, an in-flight diversion. On the GC, PIK is 350nm closer to YUL than BYJ.
Lots of comments on here about flight plans - is this solely derived from FR24?
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Old 27th May 2024, 09:11
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Is it just sitting in PIK or is anything happening with the aircraft. Surely sitting outside exposed on the west coast of Scotland does the airframe no good.
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Old 27th May 2024, 21:40
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Originally Posted by AircraftOperations
Seem to remember FR24 was showing its flight from YUL to be headed for PIK almost immediately after departure from YUL. Granted, FR24 can be inaccurate, but it suggests that PIK was the FPL destination and not, at least, an in-flight diversion. On the GC, PIK is 350nm closer to YUL than BYJ.
I stand corrected! Excuse the possibly ignorant question, but does it still happen that a flight will sometimes file for a closer destination and then while en route refile for its intended destination? I'm not Ops but I seem to recall such tales from Ops colleagues (for a UK-originating flight): "we were a bit tight to file for JFK so we filed for Gander and then refiled for JFK after a few hours aloft."
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Old 27th May 2024, 22:16
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Mr J: Yes, used to do it for example with B744 ex Hong Kong Kai Tak, which could be very limiting on takeoff weight on r/w 31 in summer. Couldn't accomodate all payload plus enough fuel for London (routing over for example Frankfurt or Amsterdam) with all required reserves without being overweight for takeoff. So: fIle plan for e.g. Frankfurt, if all goes well and you get the altitudes etc you wanted, the contingency fuel for that situation hadn't been used. Approaching Frankfurt and with all other necessary conditions met you can now refile to London because you still have adequate reserves to do it quite safely. If my memory serves me rightly!! And no idea how commonplace it is these days.
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Old 28th May 2024, 08:56
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That does sound a plausible explanation.
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Old 28th May 2024, 12:27
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I remember eons ago AirUK used to operate during the Summer BFS to GCI on F27. They would file to EXT and then if conditions allowed "divert" to GCI. Modern flight planning software probably makes it very difficult to do similar now.
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Old 28th May 2024, 12:41
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I would have thought in this particular instance they'd want to be pretty confident they'd make the intended destination (maintenance facility), be it Prestwick or elsewhere.
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Old 28th May 2024, 12:48
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
Is it just sitting in PIK or is anything happening with the aircraft. Surely sitting outside exposed on the west coast of Scotland does the airframe no good.
I visited Prestwick recently and during the period I was there, I could not see any work being carried out on the aircraft. The engines are covered with plastic sheets and tape so doesn't look like it is going anywhere soon.
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Old 28th May 2024, 13:37
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The Canadian L1011-100 operators out of PIK for Toronto used to file a flight plan to Mirabel and continue for Toronto most days. Pre internet that used to confuse me greatly.....

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Old 29th May 2024, 09:42
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The Canadian L1011-100 operators out of PIK for Toronto used to file a flight plan to Mirabel and continue for Toronto most days. Per internet that used to confuse me greatly.....
Likewise BA Tristars leaving the Gulf for London in August, even departing in the middle of the night they would file to somewhere like FRA and divert to LHR later in the flight.
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Old 29th May 2024, 18:05
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Okay, so anyone thats ever operated Ultra Long/Long Haul knows that this is a way of making your destination when things are tight (only done that a few hundred times ever), but apart from how that A380 finds itself at PIK, what has this got to do with Global and if its ever going to start service?
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Old 29th May 2024, 18:49
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I agree there's a fair amount of guesswork going on here, but I think we all agree that it's pretty hard to start services without a serviceable aircraft, and they don't seem to be getting any nearer to that.
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