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Old 18th Oct 2023, 18:08
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Poor old Liam just doesn't get it does he?!

Prove me wrong, but Hi Fly doesn't sound like a partner in the true sense of the word - it's a SUPPLIER.

Hi Fly failed to make a go of its own A380 operations - so now it's going to be paid by Global. Hi Fly must surely know just how unlikely Global is to succeed. But as long as the invoices get paid, what do they care? It's not their problem anymore.

And when they strutted on stage for the graveyard 0800 slot at Routes Online, Globals two PR chaps could only name two other partners --- American Express, and Laurent Perrier champagne. Let's reflect on that...

Amex are prepared to handle card payments for Global (IF Global ever get as far as flying!) in exactly the same way that Amex would handle a bangle seller on Etsy. It's not exactly a ringing commercial endorsement!

As for Laurent Perrier - wasn't that the champagne they were serving on the Titanic on its maiden voyage?

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Old 18th Oct 2023, 19:04
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Originally Posted by GrimeySky
And as for Laurent Perrier - wasn't that the champagne they were serving on the Titanic on its maiden voyage?
Very appropriate - I'm sure I read somewhere that when the unapproved J-class seats are ripped out, they're going to be replaced by deckchairs ...
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Old 20th Oct 2023, 12:29
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The first aircraft, which will be registered 9H-GLOBL, will be put on wet-lease provider Hi Fly’s Maltese air operator’s certificate (AOC) and ferried from the U.S. to Portugal “over the coming weeks” for refurbishment.

Source: https://aviationweek.com/air-transpo...e-airbus-a380s


I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought their first aircraft was located at Lourdes, which is in Europe, so why would they be ferrying it from USA to Portugal...?!
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Originally Posted by jmdavies86

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought their first aircraft was located at Lourdes, which is in Europe, so why would they be ferrying it from USA to Portugal...?!
3 frames have been acquired ex China Southern which are currently stored at MHV. If anything Global say can be taken as fact, which is unlikely.
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Old 20th Oct 2023, 13:45
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Originally Posted by jmdavies86

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought their first aircraft was located at Lourdes, which is in Europe, so why would they be ferrying it from USA to Portugal...?!
Global made a reference to the aircraft coming from the US in a press release 3 weeks ago:

Global Airlines to contract Hi Fly to accelerate A380 Entry into Service Programme

accompanied by a photo of the aircraft in situ at Lourdes.
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Old 20th Oct 2023, 14:02
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Quick aside - Apolgies if this is common knowledge but what REG ETC is/was that Lourdes A380?
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
Quick aside - Apolgies if this is common knowledge but what REG ETC is/was that Lourdes A380?
A VERY quick search online (available to anyone) comes up as 9H-MIP, formerly operated by Hi-Fly Malta. Originally entering service with Singapore Airlines as 9V-SKC on the 11/03/08. It was the sixth A380 off the production line when it was delivered to it's original operator Singapore Airlines.

Withdrawn from use with Singapore Airlines on the 06 November 2017 it was eventually sold to Doric Aviation and re-registered as D-DSKC.

Hi Fly Malta acquired the aircraft on the 04/07/18 and it was re-registered as PH-MIP. It has remained at Tarbes-Lourdes-Pyrenees-Airport ever since, and to be totally honest and most would agree that it will probably remain there until it's finally dismantled.
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sotonsean, which site did you use to get that history please?
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sotonsean, which site did you use to get that history please?
9H MIP. Saw it a few tims at LGW.

https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...y-malta/ek8yve

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Originally Posted by slast
sotonsean, which site did you use to get that history, please?
I picked up the information from various sources after making a VERY QUICK search online.

I can't remember the exact websites that I used, but one in particular was www.airfleets.net

You do realise that all you have to do is type the aircraft's registration into your browser and choose from the various sources of information. Honestly, it's that EASY 😉

I'm not being facetious, but searching for your own information online is much easier and far more rewarding than having to wait for a lengthy response from someone on pprune.
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
I picked up the information from various sources after making a VERY QUICK search online.

I can't remember the exact websites that I used, but one in particular was www.airfleets.net

You do realise that all you have to do is type the aircraft's registration into your browser and choose from the various sources of information. Honestly, it's that EASY 😉

I'm not being facetious, but searching for your own information online is much easier and far more rewarding than having to wait for a lengthy response from someone on pprune.

It's even easier if you type in the correct registration....
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Old 20th Oct 2023, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Apron Artist
It's even easier if you type in the correct registration....
Thanks for adding that useful piece of information but I guess that goes without saying 🤷

But my first attempt wasn't the registration as I couldn't think of it at the time of my search. A VERY quick search under "Global Airlines Airbus A380" took me exactly to where I wanted.

Am I really using my time to make this comment, I need to stay away from here 😳
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Thanks for adding that useful piece of information but I guess that goes without saying 🤷

But my first attempt wasn't the registration as I couldn't think of it at the time of my search. A VERY quick search under "Global Airlines Airbus A380" took me exactly to where I wanted.

Am I really using my time to make this comment, I need to stay away from here 😳

It IS actually possible to impart some information without denigrating those that ask it. Not everyone has time/resources to find the answers to some questions that pop up on here. I find it easier just to answer them, rather than lecture on how to use the interweb to find it. A VERY quick reflection of the content of this site will reveal as much.

And stand 51 at LGW remains available for an A380, if not ideal. Not that there is any chance of Global Airlines ever using it.
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Old 20th Oct 2023, 18:54
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Thanks for your lecture. It's not really appreciated, but nonetheless you decided on your part to try and give me one.

Gate 51, being the only specified A380 capable gate at LGW, is used as you know by Emirates for the best part of the day.

With Emirates currently having three daily A380 flights into LGW, I can't imagine Pier 51 being available to any other possible A380 operator, especially the likes of Global Airlines.

The planned routes for Global Airlines were for transatlantic. The timings of any possible transatlantic routes by Global Airlines would more or less coincide with those from Emirates arriving from Dubai. Gate 51 would therefore be occupied by Emirates.

For operational reasons and for those reasons that I have stated, I don't see Gate 51 at LGW North Terminal being available.

But then again it's not going to be an issue as it's fairly certain that Global Airlines won't even get to that stage.
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Thanks for your lecture. It's not really appreciated, but nonetheless you decided on your part to try and give me one.

Gate 51, being the only specified A380 capable gate at LGW, is used as you know by Emirates for the best part of the day.

With Emirates currently having three daily A380 flights into LGW, I can't imagine Pier 51 being available to any other possible A380 operator, especially the likes of Global Airlines.

The planned routes for Global Airlines were for transatlantic. The timings of any possible transatlantic routes by Global Airlines would more or less coincide with those from Emirates arriving from Dubai. Gate 51 would therefore be occupied by Emirates.

For operational reasons and for those reasons that I have stated, I don't see Gate 51 at LGW North Terminal being available.

But then again it's not going to be an issue as it's fairly certain that Global Airlines won't even get to that stage.
Emirates uses 558, not 51. It was outside my crew room 3 times a day. Can't really miss it - big old thing that blocks the daylight out. More often than not 51L and 51R have a couple of easyJets on them. Occasional Westjet or Delta on 51M. Once the final Emirates leaves in the evening, 557 and 559 receive overnighting easyJets.

51 still remains available for any A380 service - just means shuffling few easyJets about mainly. Certainly won't be Global Airlines, doubt it will be any other A380 operator, for that matter.
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Old 20th Oct 2023, 19:32
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Originally Posted by Apron Artist
Emirates uses 558, not 51. It was outside my crew room 3 times a day. Can't really miss it - big old thing that blocks the daylight out. More often than not 51L and 51R have a couple of easyJets on them. Occasional Westjet or Delta on 51M. Once the final Emirates leaves in the evening, 557 and 559 receive overnighting easyJets.

51 still remains available for any A380 service - just means shuffling few easyJets about mainly. Certainly won't be Global Airlines, doubt it will be any other A380 operator, for that matter.
Stand 558, Gate 51 same same isn't it.

Obviously easyjet use the gate overnight as there would be no Emirates at the gate during that period.

Obviously the stands are flexible to accommodate two Airbus A320 aircraft at anytime. Most stands at LGW are flexible as you are more than likely aware off.

Obviously there are gaps between the Emirates A380 flights which can easily accommodate an EasyJet or even a B787. But they are not really long enough to accommodate another A380 operator to use the gate.

Obviously, this won't affect the operations of Emirates at LGW as it's quite obvious that there won't be another A380 operator in the near future using the airport.

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So where does that leave Global, Gate 13 at STN, oh hang on, doesn't Emirates use that and they eventually want to have x4 A380s!
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Originally Posted by pabely
So where does that leave Global, Gate 13 at STN, oh hang on, doesn't Emirates use that and they eventually want to have x4 A380s!
Emirates haven't even got to the point where they are operating three daily Boeing 777-300ER flights into STN. As much as I appreciate your enthusiasm but are you not getting ahead of yourself by suggesting that Emirates eventually want to have x4 daily A380s into STN.

I accept the fact that your comment might be meant as being humourous but in case it wasn't I have a question for you just in case you were actually being serious.

"Can I have some of what your taking as it's obviously stronger than my own personal use".
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Not enthusiasm, it's Global who eventually want x4 A380 in use, but based where?
Obviously only Emirates will know the figures on whether one of their current x2 daily 777 to STN is worth upgrading to a A380 vs x3 daily 777, either way they use the only A380 capable airbridge at STN and unlikely to move.
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Originally Posted by pabely
Not enthusiasm, it's Global who eventually want x4 A380 in use, but based where?
Obviously only Emirates will know the figures on whether one of their current x2 daily 777 to STN is worth upgrading to a A380 vs x3 daily 777, either way they use the only A380 capable airbridge at STN and unlikely to move.
So when you mentioned "they," you were actually referring to Global and their intended fleet of four Airbus A380s. Rather than suggesting Emirates eventually operating x4 daily A380 flights into STN.

I understand what you actually meant now, but hey, "I still want what you're using." 🤗

But come on, these sort of topics and questions are irrelevant really as we all know that there will be no great outcome from all of this. I give the guy credit, though, for his enthusiasm, but if this operation actually starts, I'll be totally shocked. I can assure you.

Oh, perhaps I should be asking Mr. Asquith if I can have some of what's he's using, he looks the type 🤔
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