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First Global aircraft expected to fly to Europe in the months ahead, with a new registration of 9H-GLOBL
And last time I looked Lourdes was in Europe…
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Global Airlines and Hi Fly have signed an agreement to work together on the development and maintenance of the four A380 aircraft the new airline has agreed to acquire.
Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/globa...83D4aZ2w%3D%3D
Source: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/globa...83D4aZ2w%3D%3D
That doesn't sound like a strong commitment for an airline who claim they're going to be flying next spring.
Their Twitter account made their first tweet in nearly six weeks yesterday, and it was a plug for Holiday Swap. Although I did notice this from their 'Director of Corporate Affairs': https://x.com/liammckayaero/status/1...212186329?s=20
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Are they [Global] going to end up doing something similar to what FlyPop did and have an aircraft(s) painted into their livery and flying around the world, but never actually provide scheduled services on the route(s) that they've suggested they want to serve.
As an interesting aside, I've noticed that all of FlyPop's A330s are no longer showing as operating for them - MSNs 1527 (G-EPOP) & 1445 (9H-POP) are due to be delivered to US-Bangla Airlines and 1420 (9H-PTP) was delivered to Saudi Arabian Airlines at the end of June, so have FlyPop stopped now...?!
As an interesting aside, I've noticed that all of FlyPop's A330s are no longer showing as operating for them - MSNs 1527 (G-EPOP) & 1445 (9H-POP) are due to be delivered to US-Bangla Airlines and 1420 (9H-PTP) was delivered to Saudi Arabian Airlines at the end of June, so have FlyPop stopped now...?!
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Are they [Global] going to end up doing something similar to what FlyPop did and have an aircraft(s) painted into their livery and flying around the world, but never actually provide scheduled services on the route(s) that they've suggested they want to serve.
As an interesting aside, I've noticed that all of FlyPop's A330s are no longer showing as operating for them - MSNs 1527 (G-EPOP) & 1445 (9H-POP) are due to be delivered to US-Bangla Airlines and 1420 (9H-PTP) was delivered to Saudi Arabian Airlines at the end of June, so have FlyPop stopped now...?!
As an interesting aside, I've noticed that all of FlyPop's A330s are no longer showing as operating for them - MSNs 1527 (G-EPOP) & 1445 (9H-POP) are due to be delivered to US-Bangla Airlines and 1420 (9H-PTP) was delivered to Saudi Arabian Airlines at the end of June, so have FlyPop stopped now...?!
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Ah aeropolitics. My favourite subject.
If they use an EU (say Maltese or Portuguese) AOC and registry, their chances of doing UK to the US (and indeed a whole load of other third countries) goes the way of the woozlum bird.
Let’s assume Malta. They can happily fly from anywhere in the EU to anywhere in the US (there’s an open skies agreement). They’ll need to get a foreign ops permit from the US but these are rarely unreasonably withheld.
What they can’t do - since Brexit - is to treat the UK as a stop or a base. If they use it as a stop - say MLA-LGW-EWR - that’s a fifth freedom route. And they are a no no with the UK and the EU since Brexit.
Also, if they based a Maltese registered aircraft in LGW and flew that to EWR (and going back to MLA now and again to blow the tyres up) then that’s a seventh freedom route. If you think they’ll have no chance of a fifth freedom, the chances of a seventh freedom post Brexit are about one billionth of that.
Does no one in these crazy projects ever do any research?
If they use an EU (say Maltese or Portuguese) AOC and registry, their chances of doing UK to the US (and indeed a whole load of other third countries) goes the way of the woozlum bird.
Let’s assume Malta. They can happily fly from anywhere in the EU to anywhere in the US (there’s an open skies agreement). They’ll need to get a foreign ops permit from the US but these are rarely unreasonably withheld.
What they can’t do - since Brexit - is to treat the UK as a stop or a base. If they use it as a stop - say MLA-LGW-EWR - that’s a fifth freedom route. And they are a no no with the UK and the EU since Brexit.
Also, if they based a Maltese registered aircraft in LGW and flew that to EWR (and going back to MLA now and again to blow the tyres up) then that’s a seventh freedom route. If you think they’ll have no chance of a fifth freedom, the chances of a seventh freedom post Brexit are about one billionth of that.
Does no one in these crazy projects ever do any research?
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Flypop still going with 1 X A333 which is operated by Smartlynx for them.
Guess what…. POP left Hi Fly because Hi-Fly were no good as a management AOC ‘Allegedly’
So Hi fly are the only airline in the world that flew the 380 outside of mainlines like LH BA QF SQ. They couldn’t make it work, handed it back! Next up, they manage one for Global, not that the 9H reg will give them the rights ex UK. Interestingly, Hi Fly own Jet Exchange in Cambridge and are applying to covert this from a B OL to an OL to give them access to the UK Market!
Do Global have purchase rights on this AOC as a back door for the 380 into the UK?
My personal view is the UK CAA don’t want any other UK operator other than BA of 380!
Guess what…. POP left Hi Fly because Hi-Fly were no good as a management AOC ‘Allegedly’
So Hi fly are the only airline in the world that flew the 380 outside of mainlines like LH BA QF SQ. They couldn’t make it work, handed it back! Next up, they manage one for Global, not that the 9H reg will give them the rights ex UK. Interestingly, Hi Fly own Jet Exchange in Cambridge and are applying to covert this from a B OL to an OL to give them access to the UK Market!
Do Global have purchase rights on this AOC as a back door for the 380 into the UK?
My personal view is the UK CAA don’t want any other UK operator other than BA of 380!
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Ah aeropolitics. My favourite subject.
If they use an EU (say Maltese or Portuguese) AOC and registry, their chances of doing UK to the US (and indeed a whole load of other third countries) goes the way of the woozlum bird.
Let’s assume Malta. They can happily fly from anywhere in the EU to anywhere in the US (there’s an open skies agreement). They’ll need to get a foreign ops permit from the US but these are rarely unreasonably withheld.
What they can’t do - since Brexit - is to treat the UK as a stop or a base. If they use it as a stop - say MLA-LGW-EWR - that’s a fifth freedom route. And they are a no no with the UK and the EU since Brexit.
Also, if they based a Maltese registered aircraft in LGW and flew that to EWR (and going back to MLA now and again to blow the tyres up) then that’s a seventh freedom route. If you think they’ll have no chance of a fifth freedom, the chances of a seventh freedom post Brexit are about one billionth of that.
Does no one in these crazy projects ever do any research?
If they use an EU (say Maltese or Portuguese) AOC and registry, their chances of doing UK to the US (and indeed a whole load of other third countries) goes the way of the woozlum bird.
Let’s assume Malta. They can happily fly from anywhere in the EU to anywhere in the US (there’s an open skies agreement). They’ll need to get a foreign ops permit from the US but these are rarely unreasonably withheld.
What they can’t do - since Brexit - is to treat the UK as a stop or a base. If they use it as a stop - say MLA-LGW-EWR - that’s a fifth freedom route. And they are a no no with the UK and the EU since Brexit.
Also, if they based a Maltese registered aircraft in LGW and flew that to EWR (and going back to MLA now and again to blow the tyres up) then that’s a seventh freedom route. If you think they’ll have no chance of a fifth freedom, the chances of a seventh freedom post Brexit are about one billionth of that.
Does no one in these crazy projects ever do any research?
and this is a jointed venture between TUI and Enter Air so I would like to think they have done their research.
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Essentially the same as Ryanair - so will be able to fly to EU, but not anywhere outside the EU (like Morocco, or Egypt).
It leaves them unable to operate between the UK and USA without dispensations from both sides - same as HiFly. Are they a UK airline?