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Old 22nd May 2024, 00:37
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Old 22nd May 2024, 05:35
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The abysmal infrastructure currently in place for crossing the Thames (the Dartford crossing) doesn't improve the airport's appeal for cargo operators.
The airport has a full project timeline of around 15 years I believe. In that time hopefully, the Lower Thames crossing will be opened up which will change things dramatically as there will be no need to go as far as the Dartford crossing.
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Old 22nd May 2024, 06:02
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The airport has a full project timeline of around 15 years I believe. In that time hopefully, the Lower Thames crossing will be opened up which will change things dramatically as there will be no need to go as far as the Dartford crossing.
I believe the lower crossing is very much on the back burner at the moment. On the positive side, if the closure of Ashford International station becomes permanent, I could see flights to Paris, Amsterdam and selective UK destinations doing well.
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Old 22nd May 2024, 08:45
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Old 22nd May 2024, 08:49
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Their stated plan is freight. There is ample freight capacity elsewhere. All this guff about pax ops is just press releases for gullible locals.
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Old 22nd May 2024, 10:19
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If the numbers are there then there will be flights. Nothing to do with gullible locals. There are plenty in Kent who fly from Gatwick or Stansted and the likes of Ryanair or Easyjet will certainly give it a shot if the demand is there.

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Old 22nd May 2024, 11:02
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I actually used EUjet when they were operating from Manston. I lived at the time over an hour away. The experience at Manston was said to be great, so I wanted to try it. On return I was off the plane and in the car in under 10 minutes. That included getting my bag off the reclaim. It was a great little set up. I even converted some friends into trying it. They’d never heard of it, but were also sold on the experience and booked again. Remember back then we didn’t have a small viable alternative airport to the London four. Southend wasn’t redeveloped at this point. London City was always expensive and meant a journey into London, mostly catered to the business traveller.

Unfortunately EUjet tried too hard to expand. They were running out of money fast. Some of their routes made no sense. Then (was it Plane Station?) the owners purchased EUjet. The story then becomes very similar to Southend /Stobart/Stobart Air. But looking ahead I’d say there’s definitely some scope for a few bucket & spade routes, as have featured in the past. But cargo is where RSP plan to start.

Interestingly Thanet Parkway station opened last year. An air/bus/rail link could provide a fast(ish) journey time to London. But is that the market they’re going for? I’d like to think RSP in the last seven years have done their homework. Time will tell.
I used EUJet once too but only because I was based in Manchester and had a meeting in Canterbury! Bit of a niche...
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Old 22nd May 2024, 12:55
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Originally Posted by felixflyer
If the numbers are there then there will be flights. Nothing to do with gullible locals. There are plenty in Kent who fly from Gatwick or Stansted and the likes of Ryanair or Easyjet will certainly give it a shot if the demand is there.
Have the new operators bothered to consult Ryanair or Easyjet prior to making their statement? I struggle to see how this is going to work, and what exactly is in it for them. Such a large investment for what appears to be little likely return.
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Old 24th May 2024, 10:43
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Originally Posted by pamann
I actually used EUjet when they were operating from Manston. I lived at the time over an hour away. The experience at Manston was said to be great, so I wanted to try it. On return I was off the plane and in the car in under 10 minutes. That included getting my bag off the reclaim. It was a great little set up. I even converted some friends into trying it. They’d never heard of it, but were also sold on the experience and booked again. Remember back then we didn’t have a small viable alternative airport to the London four. Southend wasn’t redeveloped at this point. London City was always expensive and meant a journey into London, mostly catered to the business traveller.

Unfortunately EUjet tried too hard to expand. They were running out of money fast. Some of their routes made no sense. Then (was it Plane Station?) the owners purchased EUjet. The story then becomes very similar to Southend /Stobart/Stobart Air. But looking ahead I’d say there’s definitely some scope for a few bucket & spade routes, as have featured in the past. But cargo is where RSP plan to start.

Interestingly Thanet Parkway station opened last year. An air/bus/rail link could provide a fast(ish) journey time to London. But is that the market they’re going for? I’d like to think RSP in the last seven years have done their homework. Time will tell.
I used it once in the early days too going to AMS, £1 fares too good to turn up. There were 7 of us on the Fokker 100 out although bizarrely it was full coming back!

I got a train from Canterbury to somewhere I forget now, missed the shuttle bus which then had a long wait and got a taxi instead. The terminal experience was nice enough from what I remember. Managed to get the shuttle on the way back which was a crappy minibus with steps and no luggage space. Long wait for a train back to Canterbury. Whilst some of this was out of their control a poor public transport experience doesnt help.

I was not surprised at all when it all collapsed the following summer.
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Old 27th May 2024, 05:42
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I note they had a fly in event at the weekend ; good to see there is still an operable runway
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Old 9th Jun 2024, 11:26
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All these potential EU travelers to and from Kent. We had 2 stations providing this facility via the Eurostar and that service was withdrawn due to Covid but also lack of users. I fear the same fate for Manston as the talk of cargo flights initially providing sufficient income is nonsense.
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Old 9th Jun 2024, 17:23
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All these potential EU travelers to and from Kent. We had 2 stations providing this facility via the Eurostar and that service was withdrawn due to Covid but also lack of users. I fear the same fate for Manston as the talk of cargo flights initially providing sufficient income is nonsense.
As far as I am aware but the two stations in Kent that previously provided Eurostar service we're withdrawn after Brexit/Covid due to low demand plus the fact that neither station had Border Control and Custom facilities. It was therefore decided to withdraw all Eurostar services from both stations due to the unnecessary expense in providing these facilities.

All this talk of a reopened Manston is absolutely ridiculous. It's not needed and it's not practical. The whole idea is beyond a joke.
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Old 9th Jun 2024, 19:43
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Originally Posted by HZ123
We had 2 stations providing this facility via the Eurostar and that service was withdrawn due to Covid but also lack of users.
There was a news article the other day suggesting that if competitors are allowed to challenge Eurostar's monopoly on the Channel Tunnel, then this might lead to trains stopping in Kent again in the future.
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