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Old 27th Oct 2022, 20:56
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
Perhaps they have looked at it and decided against it? Quite possible.
Possibly yes but JER always had high passenger figures ex CWL with BA, JE, WW & BE and guarantee they be crying out for a new operator restoring this link.
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Old 27th Oct 2022, 21:02
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I'm sure they will be, but with the traditional Jersey tourism market in long-term decline due to reducing amounts of accommodation there, a lot of things which used to happen in Jersey won't. That's partly why you've seen Jet2 cut back their Jersey programme too. The island used to have schedules to Bournemouth too, and weekend charters to Gloucester, Oxford, Manston, Blackpool, Dundee, Aberdeen, Inverness and probably several others that I can't remember but none are still flying today. As they say in the small print on your pension, past performance is not indicative of future results!
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Old 27th Oct 2022, 21:22
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why early ?
That's for someone else to say on an open forum.
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Old 29th Oct 2022, 02:50
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
Iím surprised that Blue Islands have not looked at the possibility of JER-CWL-JER flights for S23. Would be an ideal fit for them.
Because they've got a lot of vested interest in Bristol and as far as I'm aware passenger loads on JER-BRS aren't where they should be, last thing they'll want to do is lure people away.
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Old 29th Oct 2022, 17:42
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Originally Posted by N123JB
BI are studying a return to IOM with direct flights from JER.
I can't see there being sufficient demand for direct JER-IOM-JER flights; SI currently has a partnership in place with LM that allows for customers to buy a single through-ticket that offers 'seamless connections', so surely developing a strong network of one-stop journey options via a mainland destination would be a better proposition for both carriers.

For example, SI could consider operating JER-LPL (as LM offers LPL-IOM) or perhaps LM could operate IOM-SOU (as SI offers SOU-JER).
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Old 29th Oct 2022, 18:09
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The only issue with that is for many potential customers on that route, theyíre limited on the number of days they can be in the UK even for a flight connection. A non-stop service avoids the issue.
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Old 29th Oct 2022, 18:29
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Jersey - IoM has been tried quite often over the last 15-20 years; & has never proved to be a "goer". I am surprised that Blue Island are resurrecting it - again.
There is , perhaps an unquantifiable, demand from the finance industry in both islands, but I don't think that there is much of a demand elsewhere in either island. Overall, I can't see it lasting this time, either.
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Old 29th Oct 2022, 22:38
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IOM - JER has been a 19 seater route in the past served with Jetstream and Dorniers, if memory serves (and in the case of Manx2. their Dornier made a stop at GLO en route). .Not sure how they can reasonably expcet to make it work with a 70 seater in times of video conferencing, WFH etc.
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Old 13th Nov 2022, 23:07
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Originally Posted by kcockayne
Jersey - IoM has been tried quite often over the last 15-20 years; & has never proved to be a "goer". I am surprised that Blue Island are resurrecting it - again.
There is , perhaps an unquantifiable, demand from the finance industry in both islands, but I don't think that there is much of a demand elsewhere in either island. Overall, I can't see it lasting this time, either.
BI's argument is that now BA/Flybe don't serve IOM there's no one-booking connecting option, and the only alternative is a really long layover at LGW on EZY or Loganair who seem to be stupidly expensive. When BI originally served IOM it was successful, I remember it being up to twice daily at one point, however was scrapped as frequencies would've had to have been cut pretty dramatically if the route was to move to the ATR, which would hence make BA/Flybe a more attractive option, plus I also remember BI heavily pushing the ability to self connect through LCY when they first launched the latter. I'd say their argument isn't totally hopeless, however I can't see how they can make it work with 70 seats per flight. You're either going to have such limited frequency again or end up flooding the market.
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Old 1st Feb 2023, 16:18
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Does Blue Islands currently have any other bases than Jersey and Guernsey. Do they nightstop there aircraft or do they return to Jersey and Guernsey every night.

I know there was talk about a base at Exeter or Southampton.

Did that ever happen

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Old 1st Feb 2023, 19:02
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They only night stop at GCI & JER. The proposed UK bases never got off the ground I think I'm correct in saying..
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Old 1st Feb 2023, 19:29
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg
They only night stop at GCI & JER. The proposed UK bases never got off the ground I think I'm correct in saying..
Okay , cheers for that info......
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 11:45
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Having noticed that they are recruiting for Captains at the minute, I wonder how they manage to find any?

Given that the only bases are the Channel Islands and the cost of renting/buying anywhere there seems to be extortionate. Wouldn't imagine a commuting contract is feasible.

Out of interest, anyone know what the starting salary is?
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 12:11
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I know it's a shame that they have not got a base on the mainland UK.

At least it would be cheaper for people to seek accommodation, rather than the high prices of the channel islands.

Maybe time will tell, who knows.

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[QUOTE............Given that the only bases are the Channel Islands and the cost of renting/buying anywhere there seems to be extortionate.,,,,,,[/QUOTE]

Not unless you can gain access to Local Market housing. Anyone know if Aurigny has facilitated this for their crew members? If they have then Blue Islands should have a good case to secure the same for theirs.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 20:41
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I've always been surprised that neither Blue or Aurigny overnight an aircraft in the UK, there is I'm sure a market for an early departure to the island from either LGW or SOU, CityFlyer used to do an 0730 from LGW to GCI on weekdays with healthy loads I recall, I know times are very different now but I'm sure it could still prove worthwhile.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 22:36
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The cost of night stopping a crew and aircraft is huge much more than you can imagine with the logistics involved
Flybe never did it for all those years when they operated the lucrative route from SOU

Easy Jet have finally based an aircraft over night here in Jersey with surprisingly good loads so far for the summer so who knows
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 16:08
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Originally Posted by darn
Having noticed that they are recruiting for Captains at the minute, I wonder how they manage to find any?

Given that the only bases are the Channel Islands and the cost of renting/buying anywhere there seems to be extortionate. Wouldn't imagine a commuting contract is feasible.

Out of interest, anyone know what the starting salary is?
Its about £45k for captains and £25k for FOís I believe which is only really appealing to locals who donít want to move away and or people who already have wealth.

Not sure how anyone can survive on those wages over there without someone or something supplementing their income.

An FO I know who left a few years back only managed to put up with is because his parents sent him £500pm to top up his wages before he found something better.
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Old 19th Jul 2023, 16:36
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BHX - JER

Has this route become part-time?

Just operate when they can find an aircraft, as the amount of cancellations in the last week have been unbelievable especially when one the major loco's is going to enter on the route next year. I

would have thought you would want to look after your customers not inconvenience them or drive them away.

I assume it is all due to an ATR which has been out of service since 6 July and the lack of being able to source an alternative carrier to operate on their behalf?

I trust they have spread the cancellations around but nothing from BHX after last Thursday until Sunday last week, nothing yesterday, both flights cancelled today

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Old 19th Jul 2023, 18:50
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Guernsey - Southampton has had disruption on some days as they have been moving the aircraft over to Jersey - at various points I have seen the Aurigny ATR operating the afternoon flights, some flights totally cancelled and Aurigny laying on their own flights, including with a Dornier at some points for the customers who had booked direct with Aurigny.

I think there was one night also where they used one ATR to operate SOU-GCI-SOU in the middle of the evening JER-SOU-JER rotation, and I have also seen what would be the Guernsey-based aircraft flown out after its evening Southampton run when it has operated so that it is in Jersey to operate a red-eye the following day.

The 5-6pm inter-island rotation also operated after 10pm on at least 2 days last week... the aircraft that is currently out of action was also sat broken down when I went through Birmingham on 30 June
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