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[onion]

The airport will benefit from the Treasury and the Department of Trade.

Firstly the staff are asked to use the cheapest methods possible. This includes deciding if they can travel up and down in a day and fore go the cost of an overnight stay and the expense of food claims too!

Secondly how many staff who work in those departments actually live within easy access of a station on the East Coast mainline? Cross rail will bring Heathrow closer and if the LCY starts up again it will be ideally suited to the government offices at Stratford and Canary Wharf.

Thirdly the Department of Trade will have offices in a number if locations, including Belfast and Cardiff, these are locations where surface transport to Darlington is not great. Bring the airport into play.

Yes the new departments wont on their own keep the services going, but they will provide passengers, both inbound and outbound, which can only help.

They will also provide well paid jobs that will hopefully be taken up by people live within the airports catchment area. Who in term will use the airport for leisure reasons.

[onion]

N707ZS

When you say customs only not tax, what do you mean?

[SWBKCB]

Firstly the staff are asked to use the cheapest methods possible. This includes deciding if they can travel up and down in a day and fore go the cost of an overnight stay and the expense of food claims too!

Many govt departments don't allow domestic flights for environmental reasons. I'd be surprised if they are permitted in the Treasury which I understand is driving the carbon zero message across government. Doubt whether flights will beat the train for convenience. I'd also imagine that as belts tighten, travel budgets will be the first to be looked at after people have spent a year working on Teams.

Other points are spot on - no downside to having those jobs local.

Not aware of the point N707ZS is making, but presumably he means that not all the areas of the freeport will get the tax reductions on new buildings and other investments? If so, the other areas of the freeport will jump to the front of the new investment queue ahead of the airport

[onion]

SWBKCB, the convience depends on the meeting or work that been attended.
I know that when it come to travel everything is taken into account, but cost is usually the driving factor to the point it is stipulated to use the cheapest option within budget where possible. On top of that you have to the factor in allowances for food etc.
convience wise it really depends on where the persons home is and the travel from there. There is also a cost involved again as well with that! Such as at what point the working day starts!

Not entirely sure why the airport new builds on the Southside wouldn't be included in the tax (CT, NI, taxes) incentives if they are in the Freeport zone.
We ll see what his point was.

[SWBKCB]

The environmental factor is really important in government now. There are definetly some depts where domestic flying isn't allowed.

[oldart]

So really if that's the case, Boris should have set an example and used the train for his visit to Middlesbrough.

[N707ZS]

There is supposedly differences in the areas of the freeport with ours being over a number of sites, the report has escaped me in my selective browser. Where is our trusted hound when we need him.

The May Hartlepool by election will no doughty produce some more political flying.

[SWBKCB]

You can't compare politicians and your average civil servant.

[onion]

N707ZS

Not sure what that would have to do with the tax?
Also you realise the East Midlands free port is the same in that is over several sites. I haven't checked the other but I'm guessing the Humber one will be over numerous sites too!

[tigertanaka]

February CAA stats:

Terminal passengers: 1,172- down 89% v prior year.

• Aberdeen: 973 (down 28% v Feb 20)

Plus charters:

• Cardiff: 66
• Farnborough: 61
• Luton: 72

Loganair went head to head with Eastern on the ABZ route from 1 February but this does not appear to have impacted loads that much (although I suspect that this could well be something to do with the much more aggressive pricing we have seen from both operators). I reckon loads in Feb were 11.3 per flight (based on 86 flights MME<>ABX) compared to 13.7 in Jan (40 flights), 12.8 in Dec (44 flights) and 11.8 in Nov (50 flights).

[tigertanaka]

Loganair applied for 138 weekly slots in the Heathrow lottery and got nothing. Presumably they applied for Teesside, IOM and NQY (lets say 20 slots each) and maybe also LBA (another 20 slots). Still only adds up to 80 slots so where else were they thinking of flying to?

Eastern Airways applied 68 weekly slots and Easyjet Europe wanted 98 but were both also unsuccessful. Shenzhen Airlines are the lucky ones with 4 weekly slots.

[highwideandugly]

And when things! get back to normal...most of these routes/slots will dissipate as major overseas travel recommences,airlines return and normality resumes ....or of course..maybe not🙁

[tigertanaka]

732 slots at LHR confirmed for Summer 2021 - note these do not appear to have legacy rights and are probably on loan (I suspect from BA).

[SWBKCB]

Says S21 rather than Winter?

[tigertanaka]

Typo - I have changed it

[P330]

More KLM changes...

3 x daily start still on the cards from mid-May but then goes to once a day from June through to end of October.

Just had my August flights cancelled; switching to Newcastle instead.

[SWBKCB]

Only Aberdeen and Newquay bookable with Eastern. Newquay flt looks to originate in NQY.

[LBIA]

MME-NQY will be operated on W-leg by a LBA Based Jetstream 41

[highwideandugly]

That’s going to be a money spinner then!

[onion]

As in a money spinner from LBA or MME?