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I would imagine a good size fleet at BHX from Day 1 with multiple daily domestics such as GLA, EDI, BHD maybe IOM and CI..
Plus a range of European destination within 2 hour flying time.
I wouldn't expect much apart from BHX initially :-)
But all guess work on my part !
Plus a range of European destination within 2 hour flying time.
I wouldn't expect much apart from BHX initially :-)
But all guess work on my part !
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CIs might be stretching it a bit, BHX already has GR serving Guernsey, SI and Easyjet serving Jersey, is there room for three???
The training flight routes and airports seem interesting, maybe random but most likely not. Liverpool featured on Thursday.
The training flight routes and airports seem interesting, maybe random but most likely not. Liverpool featured on Thursday.
The training flight routes and airports seem interesting, maybe random but most likely not. Liverpool featured on Thursday.
My money is on random
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But why random? Surely it would make more sense to visit airports you'll operate into if you're going to bother with the training in the first place. (assuming this is mandated by the CAA for experience). Not saying the routes will be the routes, but it seems odd they would visit some of the airfields they are if not intending to operate into them. But then its Flybe so random with no benefit would also make complete sense. They're hardly known for their joined up thinking.
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Newquay would make sense, but when did they visit Prestwick? If you look at where they have been all of the airfields would be logical options for them to operate into / out of.
If your talking about the use of both these airfields for training by other airlines, you need to differentiate between training like Flybe are doing (that is not the norm) and Base Training for a none ZFT type rating. Both Newquay and Prestiwck are used for Base Training by a few airlines, no doubt for many reasons.
If your talking about the use of both these airfields for training by other airlines, you need to differentiate between training like Flybe are doing (that is not the norm) and Base Training for a none ZFT type rating. Both Newquay and Prestiwck are used for Base Training by a few airlines, no doubt for many reasons.
you need to differentiate between training like Flybe are doing (that is not the norm)
If you look at where they have been all of the airfields would be logical options for them to operate into / out of.
And maybe that's what they want everybody to think. Maybe it's the old magicians trick - when they are telling us to look left, we should be looking right
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How many airlines fly aircraft around empty to conduct training other than for base training? This is probably similar to what Celio went through when gaining their AOC, getting everyone up to speed with an amount of experience flying simulated revenue flights. Line training without the passengers. Certainly not the norm.
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I'd say it's extremely unlikely for there to be enough room for BE to serve the CIs, certainly not profitably.
It's worth noting that Loganair currently serve ABZ, INV and IOM from BHX. If they were to potentially add GLA/EDI to that list, and taking into consideration the new tripartite partnership that they've just inked between themselves, GR & SI, I think they'll have the BHX to CIs market pretty much covered.
For those travellers who fly between Scotland and the CIs, I'd guess that they'll more than likely make use of the existing option of connecting via SOU, or the direct easyJet service to JER from GLA.
As for BHD, Emerald Airlines will almost certainly be considering BHX as a key route in the future once they've obtained their UK AOC and they'll simply take over from BA Cityflyer who only stepped-in as a consequence of Stobart Air's demise.
It's worth noting that Loganair currently serve ABZ, INV and IOM from BHX. If they were to potentially add GLA/EDI to that list, and taking into consideration the new tripartite partnership that they've just inked between themselves, GR & SI, I think they'll have the BHX to CIs market pretty much covered.
For those travellers who fly between Scotland and the CIs, I'd guess that they'll more than likely make use of the existing option of connecting via SOU, or the direct easyJet service to JER from GLA.
As for BHD, Emerald Airlines will almost certainly be considering BHX as a key route in the future once they've obtained their UK AOC and they'll simply take over from BA Cityflyer who only stepped-in as a consequence of Stobart Air's demise.
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I wonder how many Ground Handling companies actually tendered for the contract, Flybe choose the company with 0 experience verses the well established companies at BHX, maybe there wasn't to much choice? For a company trying to establish itself they're probably more willing to take a risk vs swissport and the rest who got their fingers burnt by Flybe Mk1.
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If we're going to be super accurate, Jet2 have their own handling company that operates at BHX. Interesting to see though Swissport didn't win the bid / were they interested? Most if not all companies that dealt with Flybe Mk1 lost money when they went under, unpaid bills etc etc. Thats no secret. Swissport being one of the larger handling agents throughout the flybe network will no doubt have had unpaid bills owed to them, therefore lost money, therefore had their fingers burnt.
Wasn't it World Fuels that actually started the whole process that ended up with the company ceasing operation when they refused to fuel aircraft due to unpaid bills? Creating the ripple effect that ended up with aircraft being seized by airports again due to unpaid bills? Or was all that just rumour? From what I remember of that night one domino fell and the rest went with it... with many fingers being burnt along the way.
Wasn't it World Fuels that actually started the whole process that ended up with the company ceasing operation when they refused to fuel aircraft due to unpaid bills? Creating the ripple effect that ended up with aircraft being seized by airports again due to unpaid bills? Or was all that just rumour? From what I remember of that night one domino fell and the rest went with it... with many fingers being burnt along the way.