Hans Airways

[southamptonavgeek]

Looks more like an A.O.C certification flight. Is there any record of an application having been submitted?

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by southamptonavgeek

Looks more like an A.O.C certification flight. Is there any record of an application having been submitted?

Their website says that the AOC application was made in March 2020.

Hopefully it will be awarded imminently. Just operating permissions from India to win. That could be a bigger challenge than the AOC!

[BHX5DME]

Originally Posted by ATNotts

Their website says that the AOC application was made in March 2020.

Hopefully it will be awarded imminently. Just operating permissions from India to win. That could be a bigger challenge than the AOC!

Yes the A330 went out to Oceanic entry point and then crew training at PIK and DSA. Not expecting any issues with rights etc to India.

[BHX5DME]

CAA proving flight was successful and AOC should be granted soon, traffic rights pending but looking good for a Winter timetable launch.

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by BHX5DME

CAA proving flight was successful and AOC should be granted soon, traffic rights pending but looking good for a Winter timetable launch.

Well if there is a 'race' between the current clutch of would be UK - Subcontinent operators Hans are well ahead of FlyPop. Slapping a snazzy paint job on your aircraft may not have proven to be right priority, nice though the FlyPop A330 looks!

[VickersVicount]

the cabin on the route proving A330 looks ‘naff’. Even the kitchen towel disposable head rest covers don’t look inspiring. The price and huge luggage allowance better be the selling point for the ‘Indian Secondary Cities’

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

the cabin on the route proving A330 looks ‘naff’. Even the kitchen towel disposable head rest covers don’t look inspiring. The price and huge luggage allowance better be the selling point for the ‘Indian Secondary Cities’

I would suspect that the selling point on BHX/ATQ is going to be price, followed by price. An all singing all dancing cabin, certainly in 'cattle class' will come in a distant third.

[747Aviatior]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

I believe it's a mythical bird from Indian culture.

Its a Swan, 5 tail feathers, one for each of the 5 k's of the sikh element and a crotchet music note for some music element too

[Copenhagen]

It seems from companies house that the chairman, Ruchir Verma, resigned on Friday.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12278146/filing-history

That’s cant be very reassuring to the AOC committee as he was a large shareholder?

[SOPS]

Originally Posted by Flying Hi

Oh yes. Just ask Jason Unsworth.
These Hans guys have really pushed the boat out at £1000.

Please. Don’t bring Jason back again!

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by Copenhagen

It seems from companies house that the chairman, Ruchir Verma, resigned on Friday.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12278146/filing-history

That’s cant be very reassuring to the AOC committee as he was a large shareholder?

In terms of his expertise within the industry I am not sure his departure is that significant. The role of Chairman is often essentially ceremonial.

What is of far greater concern is that still no start date has been set, and no revenue is being generated. Air India meanwhile is bolstering their schedule between ATQ and BHX and the question now is has Hans Airways missed their window of opportunity.

[Copenhagen]

According to companies house, The chairman was the second largest shareholder.

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by Copenhagen

According to companies house, The chairman was the second largest shareholder.

It's entirely possible that it was always the plan that he would exit the business after it reached a given point in its evolution, and of course he could keep his financial interest in the business, clearly unless any information comes from the company or the former chairman we will never know as it is not a publicly quoted company.

That said, it is probably more likely that he isn't happy with the progress of the business and had a difference of opinion with the board level decisions.

Whatever, such changes don't do anything to make the employees feel secure.

[LGS6753]

I would imagine that a shareholding in a fledgling airline amounts to a liability rather than an asset.

[MARK 101]

Hearing worrying rumours about Hans Airways.people who were offered jobs ,now being told their positions are not now being offered.
hopefully its just a glitch, but with the aircraft having sat at BHX for weeks now and no start date being announced it does seem a liitle concerning

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by MARK 101

Hearing worrying rumours about Hans Airways.people who were offered jobs ,now being told their positions are not now being offered.
hopefully its just a glitch, but with the aircraft having sat at BHX for weeks now and no start date being announced it does seem a liitle concerning

That doesn't sound good, hopefully none of those people have given up secure jobs to join Hans.

If they are going belly up it wouldn't come as a big surprise to me as Air India has already stolen a march with their soon to be 3 x weekly direct ATQ service to BHX.

[Icemanc]

Does this mean FlyPOP now have more of a chance too?

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by Icemanc

Does this mean FlyPOP now have more of a chance too?

Or potentially "two down, one to go", (the mob planning services out of LBA having already disappeared)

FlyPop is further back down the line than Hans Airways, and it'll only take Air India to rekindle their ATQ-STN operation for that outfit to be threatened with hitting the buffers.

[Copenhagen]

If a x3 weekly service by an obsolete flag carrier can kill a business case, it wasn’t much of a business case to start with.

[Atlantic Explorer]

Originally Posted by Copenhagen

If a x3 weekly service by an obsolete flag carrier can kill a business case, it wasn’t much of a business case to start with.

Indeed, I still can’t get my head around why so many people squander so much cash trying to get completely unworkable airlines off the ground!