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Old 27th Apr 2004, 14:31
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The answer i think is for germanwings, Snowflake and bmibaby to join forming star low cost or something like that, then they would be a well known airline in Scandanvia, UK and Germany + then abroad from those countries if this happened they would have a fleet of:

Gemanwings - 8 ish
Bmibaby - 14 ish
Snowflake - 6 ish

TOTAL = 28 aircraft.

This would provide a fairly sizeable operation in all three markets which wouldnt be the best thing at just that part 2 of improving germanwings and these other star alliance low costs is then expanding between the bases and further out opening a new base in each country and therefore increasing there fleet to about 40-50 aircraft all by the end of the summer 2004!.

Thats what i think they should do, they would be number three then low cost carrier in europe, fairly stable as well.
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Old 27th Apr 2004, 15:22
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German Wings will always be a small player. With the name German Wings all that you can hope for is routes from germany to XXX, never Paris to Barcelona or say French domestics. Which Frenchman would travel with German Wings on French domestics say?

60 years is not a long time in history! Like it or not the "German" in their name will let them down!

Whereas "easyJet" does not have a regional name so people aren't put off by the name (unless they've seen the tv series). Therefore eJ can build up critical mass in other markets to subsidise a fight with German Wings.

However I think LH have a share in GW as it is/was part of Eurowings which were owned by LH. Be interesting to see if LH start subsidising them.

I remember when "go" was operating STN-MUC Lufthansa contracted in bmi's A321 to compete at rock bottom prices on the STN-MUC route. Great for consumers but not for the company.
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Old 27th Apr 2004, 16:05
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I heard arumour that Heinz Rudolf Woehrl was the head of German Wings. Can anyone confirm this? By proffesion he is a shirt maker and certainly used to have highly personal marketing ideas when he owned NFD.
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Old 27th Apr 2004, 19:31
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Scottie, what about Air Berlin? You might have thought that they would only operate flights to and from Berlin but they operate flights out of Stansted to various destinations in Spain. I'm not sure whether they have any aircraft based at Stansted.
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Old 27th Apr 2004, 19:38
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James -

There is one daily flight STN-PMI. It was started up out of anger at EZY muscling in on their base at Berlin. (What a way to run an airline!!).
I don't know how it's doing.
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Old 27th Apr 2004, 20:26
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@colegate

Woehrl is not and has never been the head of Germanwings. Nevertheless he is the owner of 'Deutsche BA' which he bought from BA for the symbolic price of 1 €.
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Eurowings: 19 a/c will be parked this summer

Lufthansa's feeder Germanwings will store 19 aircraft this summer. All it's CRJ 200 plus two CRJ 700. Lufthansa claims small RJs don't work anymore as high yield business travel declined too much.

Eurowings legt 19 Flugzeuge still - FLUG REVUE
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 12:46
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Better get ATR's back...
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 13:08
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That's a bit like Air Berlin is doing with all those LGW Q400s.
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 14:51
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Good luck to everybody at EW.Impacts are gettig closer now to my company...
P.S:
Our pax numbers today could have been flown by a 35 seater...makes "really" more sense to put larger aircraft on our routes
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 18:05
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Eurowings to put half of the fleet out of service

German news Tagesschau is reporting that Eurowings is planning to shut down half of the fleet.
With start of the summer schedule on 28. March 2010 all of the17 CRJ200 and 2 CRJ700 will be removed from the fleet.

Link to the news:
Eurowings legt die halbe Flotte still
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 18:42
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CR2's

I remember an article last year saying that LH were getting rid
of all 24 CR2's on their flights and 12 CR7's.

I assume that this press release is the Eurowings part of the cull and the rest will be CityLine?

In theory (although probably not in pratice) BHX should see it's last CR2
flight from Dusseldorf on Friday. The frequency then drops from four
daily in the week to three with a mix of CR7's and CR9's until the summer
schedule when it becomes all CR9's.

Pete
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 19:56
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They're replacing CRJ200s with new CRJ900s. However, there will be job losses, sadly.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 08:58
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As I vividly recall: In flight service was practically zero; and no soap in the lav: 9.10.09, FRA-AMS, Bae-146, D-AQUA.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 09:43
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Question

You should have reported that right on the spot, GlueBall! I'm sure they would have shut down the operation immediately and completely. So now they made a wrong decision and continue to operate a few planes, leaving you with the risk of being trapped in lavatory with NO SOAP! Damned!

I’m sure the employees have learned their lesson and – with the next company – take care and bring soap from home…..

But will this help to avoid being screwed by a mother-company like in this case? Never bend for soap, so to say…
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 10:06
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Like....der! No soap in the lav! It's in the MEL. No more than two sectors allowable.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 15:12
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Well, Kapitän Frosch, the larger issue concerns the cabin crew, who are serving food and beverage, not being able to wash their hands with soap. Think about it.
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Old 12th Apr 2013, 10:31
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With LH gradually transferring services operated by Eurowings to Germanwings, how is this going to affect the future of Eurowings?

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Old 12th Apr 2013, 10:33
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The CWL-DUS route is due to start next month op'd by Eurowings, will this be affected ?
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Old 12th Apr 2013, 11:07
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LH is not transferring from Eurowings to Germanwings - LH branded flights are being transferred to Germanwings. The subtle difference is that Eurowings will fly for Germanwings, but under the Germanwings brand (therefore 4U operations will include the EW CR900s).

Flights from DUS will not be switched over to 4U until somewhen in 2014.
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