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Old 14th Nov 2018, 16:17
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If, (& hopefully they don't) Flybe cease trading would Blue Islands be able to continue flying?
I ask this as they wouldn't have access to a reservations system on which would be all existing bookings &
therefore their revenue stream.

How quickly could an airline set up a new system to handle future bookings?
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg View Post
If, (& hopefully they don't) Flybe cease trading would Blue Islands be able to continue flying?
I ask this as they wouldn't have access to a reservations system on which would be all existing bookings &
therefore their revenue stream.

How quickly could an airline set up a new system to handle future bookings?
Well,, Jerbourg, they have done it before - when they started up. Presumably , they can do it again. IF Flybe cease to be, this could be an opportunity for Blue Island to expand. They already operate BEE’s route to Southampton (as well as having a licence of their own) & I could see them taking that route off of Flybe, as well as Birmingham, Exeter & East Midlands from Jersey & Guernsey - if that appeals to Flybe. But, this would require Blue Islands making a fairly large investment - are they interested & willing to make that commitment, or will they continue to “play at running an airline”? They don’t make a profit as it is; would things improve if they took over these sort of routes ? Interesting times ahead.

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Old 14th Nov 2018, 17:40
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I'm thinking it could be just the excuse DC is looking for to say 'Thank You & Goodnight?'
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 17:50
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There is that aspect to it, as you say. Who knows which way it will all pan out ? What are your thoughts on the Guernsey runway extension ? Has it any relevance to this situation ?
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ATR72 G-ISLM
Recently delivered, this aircraft has not been painted into Flybe colours. Instead it is mainly white with "Blue Islands" titles. Why is this? (1)Is the uncertain future of Flybe the reason why it does not have Flybe titles? (2)Are Blue Islands looking to exit the franchise? (3)A revised Flybe purple has slowly begun to appear, and -LM could have had this applied - or is this new scheme to be short-lived with a change of ownership in the offing? Any thoughts, anybody? The long-term future of Blue Islands has been raised for a while with DC showing signs of giving it up.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 14:10
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Originally Posted by Gurnard View Post
ATR72 G-ISLM
Recently delivered, this aircraft has not been painted into Flybe colours. Instead it is mainly white with "Blue Islands" titles. Why is this? (1)Is the uncertain future of Flybe the reason why it does not have Flybe titles? (2)Are Blue Islands looking to exit the franchise? (3)A revised Flybe purple has slowly begun to appear, and -LM could have had this applied - or is this new scheme to be short-lived with a change of ownership in the offing? Any thoughts, anybody? The long-term future of Blue Islands has been raised for a while with DC showing signs of giving it up.
They already have an aircraft in Flybe colours so i don't see why they need more or that it's any indication of a change of relationship.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 14:34
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They already have an aircraft in Flybe colours so i don't see why they need more or that it's any indication of a change of relationship.
"An aircraft in Flybe colours"?? Actually three - G-ISLI, -ISLK & -ISLL. The only frame in Blue Islands colours is ATR42 G-ISLH.
My point was that the most recent acquisition has not followed the pattern of the two previous frames - i.e. being painted directly into the Flybe scheme. It is more a case of reverting to what Blue Islands was before the franchise commenced.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 14:45
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Originally Posted by Gurnard View Post
"An aircraft in Flybe colours"?? Actually three - G-ISLI, -ISLK & -ISLL. The only frame in Blue Islands colours is ATR42 G-ISLH.
My point was that the most recent acquisition has not followed the pattern of the two previous frames - i.e. being painted directly into the Flybe scheme. It is more a case of reverting to what Blue Islands was before the franchise commenced.
Could be because Blue Islands do some charter work for footlball teams etc, that a stipulation of the contract is the ability to offer an unbranded aircraft?

For example, the current Stobart contract from the Isle of Man dictates that should a replacement be used.. Just a thought though but probably more closely linked to the airline still having some control over its identity or a clause in the contract agreeing to a certain number of aircraft in franchise colors.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 14:56
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Could be because Blue Islands do some charter work for footlball teams etc, that a stipulation of the contract is the ability to offer an unbranded aircraft?

For example, the current Stobart contract from the Isle of Man dictates that should a replacement be used.. Just a thought though but probably more closely linked to the airline still having some control over its identity or a clause in the contract agreeing to a certain number of aircraft in franchise colors.
An interesting thought - thanks. Until recently the airline had very little identity outside of Flybe. I can only think the decision not to slap Flybe across the airframe is somehow connected with the uncertain future of Flybe.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 15:30
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Originally Posted by Gurnard View Post
An interesting thought - thanks. Until recently the airline had very little identity outside of Flybe. I can only think the decision not to slap Flybe across the airframe is somehow connected with the uncertain future of Flybe.
Possibly, although given the delivery of the ATR coincided with the announcement of Flybe's revised livery, they held off until confirmation? Given the aircraft is all white with blue engines, I can only assume that cost played a factor, as a full purple treatment on this sized aircraft is in excess of £25K...
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 15:31
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I can only think the decision not to slap Flybe across the airframe is somehow connected with the uncertain future of Flybe.
Could be many other reasons - needing to get it in service quickly, lack of an available slot at a suitable painting facility, requirement of owners/lessors, etc

As it happens, Blue Island happily operate football charters in the BE coloured a/c - LL brought Wolves to Newcastle at the weekend.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 15:57
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They already have an aircraft in Flybe colours
The 3 existing Blue Island AT72's are in Flybe Purple, only the 1 remaining AT42 isn't (the other was but has I believe left the fleet to make way for the "new" AT72)
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 19:59
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The 3 existing Blue Island AT72's are in Flybe Purple, only the 1 remaining AT42 isn't (the other was but has I believe left the fleet to make way for the "new" AT72)
Correct. That was G-ISLF.
Can understand the cost of repainting being a factor for not painting -LM in the revised purple scheme.
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Old 12th Dec 2018, 14:27
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According to FR24 LM hasn't flown since December 1, is there a major issue with it or is it being painted I wonder?
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg View Post
According to FR24 LM hasn't flown since December 1, is there a major issue with it or is it being painted I wonder?
I was in SOU and GCI yesterday (flying there and back in ISLI) and didn't see ISLM.​​​

The purple AT42 ISLF was ferried to Malta around the end of November I think.
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Old 12th Dec 2018, 17:01
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Originally Posted by Wycombe View Post
I was in SOU and GCI yesterday (flying there and back in ISLI) and didn't see ISLM.​​​

The purple AT42 ISLF was ferried to Malta around the end of November I think.
Actually - 3rd October. Time flies!!
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Old 9th Jan 2019, 19:15
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Originally Posted by kcockayne View Post
As I intimated, somewhat tongue in cheek, in my previous comment; Blue Island donít make money - &, to my knowledge, never have. All that they are doing, somewhat haphazardly, is trying to raise their revenue. Unfortunately for them, they are a predominantly Channel Island based carrier - see Aurignyís rather dismal performance for a further illustration of the associated problems of this. I wish them well, but they will never find it easy !
Agreed, being based on a small island puts off a lot of talent in terms of staff, I myself don't fancy being stuck on an island all year round, and if there bad weather you stuck because no flights can go anywhere. Surprised they don't move their maintenance to Bristol or over to Flybe in Exeter.
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Old 10th Jan 2019, 18:38
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Originally Posted by airsouthwest View Post
Surprised they don't move their maintenance to Bristol or over to Flybe in Exeter.

I think the ATR's go to Germany for major maintenance, if I'm wrong some one will correct me I hope.

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Old 10th Jan 2019, 21:48
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Old 11th Jan 2019, 10:37
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I wonder where the takeover will leave the franchise operation?
Interesting times ahead methinks.
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