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Old 19th Oct 2019, 14:17
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Jet2 / TCX A321

Jet2 seat maps are showing the exact same seat maps as the MT flights used to. Definitely looks like LS have bought those TCX A321 Airframes


Same 2 seat extra legroom seats as TCX used to offer. Same layout and seats configuration throughout


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Old 19th Oct 2019, 14:42
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Originally Posted by SJL26779 View Post
Jet2 seat maps are showing the exact same seat maps as the MT flights used to. Definitely looks like LS have bought those TCX A321 Airframes


Same 2 seat extra legroom seats as TCX used to offer. Same layout and seats configuration throughout
Whatís to say this isnít the usual Titan A321 operating in the summer months?
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 15:34
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as far as I am aware the Titan aircraft have a different layout. G-POWU has 38 rows with 3 seats abreast in row 38, G-POWN has 37 rows. Thomas Cook aircraft only had 2 seats in row 38 I am sure. I may be wrong but Jet2 have just upgraded these aircraft a few days ago from 738 to A321

Seems a bit of a coincidence

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Old 19th Oct 2019, 15:53
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Originally Posted by SJL26779 View Post
Jet2 seat maps are showing the exact same seat maps as the MT flights used to. Definitely looks like LS have bought those TCX A321 Airframes


Same 2 seat extra legroom seats as TCX used to offer. Same layout and seats configuration throughout
Worked on many Airbus' in my time, those seats are pretty standard across most airlines.
As are the 2 seats at the back.
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 16:11
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Originally Posted by USERNAME_ View Post
Worked on many Airbus' in my time, those seats are pretty standard across most airlines.
As are the 2 seats at the back.
jet2 have wet leased an A321 all summer at Birmingham, probably just extending it to 2020
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 16:44
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Originally Posted by Garstag View Post


jet2 have wet leased an A321 all summer at Birmingham, probably just extending it to 2020
whereas the seat maps for specific MAN flights are on the A321 - these are ex TCX A321ís. confirmed.
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 16:59
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Originally Posted by irishlad06 View Post
confirmed.
where?????
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 17:13
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The maps shown by SJL26779 clearly state BIRMINGHAM TO KOS
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 17:45
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Originally Posted by SJL26779 View Post
Jet2 seat maps are showing the exact same seat maps as the MT flights used to. Definitely looks like LS have bought those TCX A321 Airframes


Same 2 seat extra legroom seats as TCX used to offer. Same layout and seats configuration throughout
Looking at Titan A321 220 config and they have the same config. Maybe they are leasing A321 into BHX alongside STN from Titan Airways. I did look into SmartLynx but they have that row forward. Roaw 24 is 4 seats.
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 17:56
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN View Post
Jet2 venturing into the South-West is surely the next obvious strategic move for them?

They've developed strong market share already elsewhere in the UK. I can't see the likes of BFS, GLA, EDI, NCL, LBA, EMA growing much more beyond current levels as a short/mid-term plan and would hardly say there's big holes to fill just because Thomas Cook may have had one or two aircraft in each. The big strategic growth will come through MAN, BHX and STN with the potential for new bases.

I personally would expect to see at least one of BRS, BOH or CWL with at least 4 aircraft in the first year or two before any of the existing smaller bases get towards 9, 10, 11 aircraft.
GLA supposed to be getting at least one extra based aircraft next year, possibly 2.
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 18:35
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Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled View Post


where?????
apparently announced internally - they have bought 4 x A321ís to begin flying in March /April all to be based at MAN. Adverts for engineers should go up soon. Flight deck recruitment already started.
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 21:03
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[QUOTE=Sharklet_321;10598371]
I would agree that there are hardly massive holes to fill with the demise of TCX. If anything, they may want to consolidate and lift yields at those locations. Unless slots are so scarce to warrant a land grab but I doubt it.
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A bed grab. In some locations there were previously not enough beds to meet demand, particularly the Balearics and Canaries.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 07:19
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A321 charter config seat maps - various capacities 210-220 seats

Don't get your knickers in a twist about this - There are a various configs that have either 3-3 all the way down through the cabin (Fly Niki had this) plus there are versions that have just 4 seats at door 3, but 6 across at door 2 and so on, and so on.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 08:53
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Originally Posted by irishlad06 View Post


apparently announced internally - they have bought 4 x A321ís to begin flying in March /April all to be based at MAN. Adverts for engineers should go up soon. Flight deck recruitment already started.
If they are advertising for Flight Crew, they are doing it very very very quietly.......
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 08:59
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If they are advertising for Flight Crew, they are doing it very very very quietly.......
many ex TCX flight deck have already had telephone interviews including TREís.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 09:20
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Weren't they aiming for a single fleet type ultimately of just 738?
Now we have a 738, 757, A321, A330...
Complexities of subfleet crewing, ageing types, maintenance etc. Didn't Airtours struggle with that?
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Antonio Montana View Post
If they are advertising for Flight Crew, they are doing it very very very quietly.......
Nothing has been announced internally. There are lots of jungle drums on the same lines as we have in this discussion.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 09:46
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Originally Posted by irishlad06 View Post


many ex TCX flight deck have already had telephone interviews including TREís.
Which is great news for those affected by the demise of TCX, but this alone means nothing, people can always change types.

Until there is an official announcement, it remains a rumour.

Jet2 have got where they are by being very careful, this seems a bit too risky to me. I cannot imagine Philip Meeson doing this.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 11:41
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Originally Posted by Antonio Montana View Post
Which is great news for those affected by the demise of TCX, but this alone means nothing, people can always change types.

Until there is an official announcement, it remains a rumour.

Jet2 have got where they are by being very careful, this seems a bit too risky to me. I cannot imagine Philip Meeson doing this.
It does remain a rumour.

I would say the PM wants his business to grow and knows the difficulties the aviation industry is currently having; MAX grounded, 737-800 mid life market dried up and now an opportunity to expand into the old TC playgrounds of MAN and BHX with GLA/NCL/EMA thrown in for good measure. It will be too tempting. With this in mind; no TC around anymore i'm sure they've thought long and hard and believe it is a good enough opportunity not to miss. The B757's are ageing, the spares market is limited, and this is the perfect opportunity, i would say, for the airline to see if the A321 (220) fits within their fleet. They've had experience of running 2 separate fleets side by side (one large one small) so whilst adding a 3rd in the mix in the short term seems madness if it pays off as a replacement of the 757 it is a success.

Having recently just seen their share price - i trust that whatever is going on in the group and at board level is approved by many. Their current share price is £12.36 versus TUI share price of £10.49.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 13:04
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Share price is irrelevant.

TUI - 589 million shares in circulation.

Dart Group - 149 million shares in circulation.

TUI still remains worth some £4bn+ more than Dart. Share price alone is an indicator of nothing.
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