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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 11:05
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Originally Posted by Johnny [email protected] Pants View Post


​​​​​​​Could just have been a tech stop from ACE???
Looks as if you might be right looking at the profile of the flight.

Out of interest I don't remember this happening last year when the new aircraft were based and wouldn't it make sense for all bases to have at least one or two new aircraft based if summer temperatures are an issue from Arrecife?

Or was this just a one-off aircraft related issue requiring a tech stop?

The BHX route is six a week and daily from February and it seems unusual when dealing with a 7800ft runway wouldn't it be easier to reduce the risk and leave one SFP at each UK airport for the ACE services?

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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 11:22
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Originally Posted by OltonPete View Post
Looks as if you might be right looking at the profile of the flight.

Out of interest I don't remember this happening last year when the new aircraft were based and wouldn't it make sense for all bases to have at least one or two new aircraft based if summer temperatures are an issue from Arrecife?

Or was this just a one-off aircraft related issue requiring a tech stop?

The BHX route is six a week and daily from February and it seems unusual when dealing with a 7800ft runway wouldn't it be easier to reduce the risk and leave one SFP at each UK airport for the ACE services?

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I am no professional but this is all news to me Ė never once have I heard of any 738 requiring a tech stop on flights from ACE to the UK. I have also flown from ACE many times on 738s as far as EDI and this has never been an issue. I suspect this would be medical or due to a technical issue with this particular aircraft (I believe it was also delayed on the outbound from BHX).
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 13:18
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I am no professional but this is all news to me Ė never once have I heard of any 738 requiring a tech stop on flights from ACE to the UK. I have also flown from ACE many times on 738s as far as EDI and this has never been an issue. I suspect this would be medical or due to a technical issue with this particular aircraft (I believe it was also delayed on the outbound from BHX).
I am no professional either but if the aircraft is carrying a snag and just maybe it was a planned diversion. FR24 definitely shows this flight closer to North Africa coast than any of the previous 5 flights indicating that it might have been planned.

I was on a Dan Air 1-11 Palma - BHX and the captain warned of a tech stop at Gatwick as we were restricted to 24000 as one of the aircon packs dropped out (made it direct in the end but uncomfortable on the ears for a few seconds) but the Jet2 was at 34000 feet between ACE-FAO so nothing like that.

As for regular issues out of ACE, like you I am not aware and the temperatures are fairly even in the Canaries so it does seem unlikely and that is why I presumed it was medical. However the FR24 replay clearly shows no deviation in track or height at any point and the Jet2 website has LS1202 ACE-BHX delayed arriving BHX 01.15 and FAO-BHX LS1202 cancelled!!!!! Confused - I am

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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 14:17
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[ LS1202 ACE-BHX delayed arriving BHX 01.15 and FAO-BHX LS1202 cancelled!!]
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 16:24
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I am no professional but this is all news to me – never once have I heard of any 738 requiring a tech stop on flights from ACE to the UK.
I am a professional and I have had to tech stop en route from ACE to the U.K. in the past. It isn’t common, but it does happen. ACE isn’t the longest of runways, and if you have to take off towards the hills you are take off weight restricted. This means that, with a heavy load on, and perhaps a headwind thus requiring more fuel to be carried you just can’t make it.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 17:38
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Originally Posted by Johnny [email protected] Pants View Post


I am a professional and I have had to tech stop en route from ACE to the U.K. in the past. It isnít common, but it does happen. ACE isnít the longest of runways, and if you have to take off towards the hills you are take off weight restricted. This means that, with a heavy load on, and perhaps a headwind thus requiring more fuel to be carried you just canít make it.
Thanks for the professional insight, [email protected]
I guess then that FUE, only a few miles south, doesnt have that problem. (Or does it?)
Runway is a cool 1000mtrs longer and the immediate right hand bank once airborne (to avoid flying straight over the Capital, Puerto del Rosario) will take you over the sea.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 07:59
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I guess then that FUE, only a few miles south, doesnt have that problem. (Or does it?)
​​​​​​​Correct, FUE has no such issues.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 08:57
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Originally Posted by garry8g View Post
Jethroís reporting that AirTanker A330 G-VYGL has now had itís lease extended to Nov 2025, and will be repainted into Jet2 Holidays livery this month!
Not sure when they'll squeeze that in as GL is flying all but one day in June and GM is everyday.
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 09:14
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Originally Posted by Off Stand View Post
Not sure when they'll squeeze that in as GL is flying all but one day in June and GM is everyday.
Could a 'sunrise' tail be done in a day?

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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 09:52
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Originally Posted by sixchannel View Post
Could a 'sunrise' tail be done in a day?
Blue engines, tail and winglets as well!!
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 09:54
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Originally Posted by garry8g View Post


Blue engines, tail and winglets as well!!
Ah - maybe not then. 😉
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 01:42
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Flight from all bases except EDI on sale for Summer 2020 season... anyone know when EDI flights are expected to be released?
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Old 4th Jun 2019, 18:53
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I don’t think they will be long. Final negotiations have to be completed.
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Old 6th Jun 2019, 08:24
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Jethro's reporting that AirTanker A330 G-VYGL has now had itís lease extended to Nov 2025, and will be repainted into Jet2 Holidays livery this month!
I'd concur with other posts, not being done this month. My best guess if its hanging around for a few more years would be to paint it in the quieter Winter months, when they perhaps don't need all the capacity it offers.

That being said, GL is almost 5 years old, could it be coming up to a large maintenance check? Might have time to squeeze in a paint session then (whenever that is, as has been reported before, it's flying flat out until at least end of August)
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Old 14th Jun 2019, 17:54
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Edinburgh now on sale for S20 with 1 new route to Izmir. Almeria and Kephalonia dropped.
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Old 14th Jun 2019, 18:17
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I wonder if Jet2 have the option to alter the A330 leases to 'dry' and train their own pilots to crew them rather than using the AirTanker pilots, given the length of the leases ?
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 13:53
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Originally Posted by Mooncrest View Post
I wonder if Jet2 have the option to alter the A330 leases to 'dry' and train their own pilots to crew them rather than using the AirTanker pilots, given the length of the leases ?
Probably not. the fact that Air Tanker is part of the RAF and that these aircraft can be recalled and refitted at 'short' notice, would be a big worry. Realistcially it's unlikely to happen, but why would Jet2 train its pilots on a completely different aircraft.
Not only is it Boeing to Airbus, but also Narrow to Wide body, that alone would be a big ask, then you'd have all the training costs to consider. At minimum, flying around 20 to 24 return sectors a week, you'd need around 10-15 F/D's equivalent, i'm sensing a 7-figure sum for this.

Can't see them going for it to be honest
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Old 18th Jun 2019, 21:49
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Do we know where the A330s will be flying in the winter? Aren't they "too much" of seating-capacity to fill them up in winter-time? Apart from the Canaries where else would they fly?
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Old 18th Jun 2019, 22:11
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Originally Posted by mariofly12 View Post
Do we know where the A330s will be flying in the winter? Aren't they "too much" of seating-capacity to fill them up in winter-time? Apart from the Canaries where else would they fly?
I was wondering the same thing. Even TUI donít use widebodies on short/medium-haul in the winter months.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 07:44
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Do we know where the A330s will be flying in the winter? Aren't they "too much" of seating-capacity to fill them up in winter-time? Apart from the Canaries where else would they fly?
Currently, the A330 is operating the majority of the EWR flights between Nov-Early Jan.
Perusing the schedules, i can only see TFS and ACE, but not every day.
Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but from Jan-Mar i don't see any use on Monday/ Wednesday, and no use Jan- Mid feb on Tuesday/ Thursday. Only in constand use on Friday to Sunday each week
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