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Old 16th Oct 2020, 08:01
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Originally Posted by rog747 View Post
Enter Air 737-800 flights leaving out of Skiathos JSI normally operate with split pax loads (Sunvil Holidays)
They fly LGW-JSI then on to Lemnos, Chios or Volos, then direct back to LGW thus a/c is light out of JSI and they fuel up at the next island.
Other 738 operators also do split loads at JSI -
Neos, Blue Panorama, TUI Fly, Smartwings, SAS, Transavia, all flying in to JSI then on to Mykonos, Karpathos, Chios, Lemnos or Santorini

If they do ever operate non-stop back to UK then usually flight will be not full, as both 73NG and A320/321 are payload limited out of JSI.
They will normally though Tech stop on the way home at places like SKG CFU PVK KVA VOL or occasionally ATH.
757 has no such issues operating in or out of JSI
Smartwings are using a 737-700 on Charter Flights to tiny Paros Island (1400m) from Prague, but fuel up at JTR for the return.
Payload limited to 120 pax (148 pax is full capacity)


737-800 and 737- MAX had been flying in and out of Jersey for a local Tour Operator to Spain and TFS in the recent past.
https://youtu.be/s2CYwP3hF0Y?t=17


UK - JER flights will likely not have loads of bags, nor need a load of fuel.
Jet2 maybe using their 737-300 which does not have too many issues in or out of JER
The 733s are currently only based at LBA, and may have been retired by the time next year comes about
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 08:11
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As advised no B733`s at STN & 4 positioning flights to operate twice a week removes part of the economic reality certainly when there are `800s STN based .
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 09:00
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Looks like Jet2 have axed the planned services from Manchester & London Stansted to Trivat in Montenegro & Zadar in Croatia for summer 2021
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 09:06
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Local press enthusiastically covering the Jersey service.

For what it`s worth quote 6000 seats over 35 flights which equates to an `800 then & slightly seat limited but perhaps the figures quoted are rounded for press release.

But it is a B738 then which makes perfect commercial sense.

EXS still quoting 42 destinations from STN next year.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 09:16
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Could some flights be operated on a W pattern with LBA on a 733?
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 12:59
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Originally Posted by CWL757 View Post
Could some flights be operated on a W pattern with LBA on a 733?
I don’t think Jersey has (yet) been announced for LBA.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 14:21
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
I don’t think Jersey has (yet) been announced for LBA.

LBA was the only airport Jet2 flew from to Jersey prior to the new bases being added, and LBA will continue next year, although it is normally flown on a 300
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 14:39
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I don't think the actual loads are going to be the main concern making money, the main concern is going to be the weather.
There will be plenty of weekends when they won't be able to get in or out because of the weather.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 15:57
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Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M View Post
I don't think the actual loads are going to be the main concern making money, the main concern is going to be the weather.
There will be plenty of weekends when they won't be able to get in or out because of the weather.
what between May - Sept?
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M View Post
I don't think the actual loads are going to be the main concern making money, the main concern is going to be the weather.
There will be plenty of weekends when they won't be able to get in or out because of the weather.
Surely if there will be “plenty” of days they won’t be able to get in/out, it would make no sense to operate it? Why would they launch a new route if there was a significant chance they wouldn’t be able to get there? That would cause all sorts of problems for passengers and crew, as well as obviously the airline as there would be significant cost associated with diversion/cancellation.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 16:17
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Originally Posted by jorvik View Post
LBA was the only airport Jet2 flew from to Jersey prior to the new bases being added, and LBA will continue next year, although it is normally flown on a 300
Apologies, I didn’t realise they already had a LBA-JER flight. In that case, yes they may operate W-patterns. Flight timings would surely be a giveaway?
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 17:36
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I used to love the Jersey W patterns at Bmibaby EMA-JER-CWL-JER-EMA that was a nice day out and we used to quite often see the same pax inbound as than what was on the outbound.

We had an aircraft go tech one week and spend time chatting to some of the pax, Who advised it was perfect for them they could fly to Jersey have their meeting and be back at home by 6pm and we used to have some regular customers that came on the Duty Free run each week
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 21:41
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Yes "stewyb" l guarantee that there will be days between May and September that they will not be able to land.
I remember from way back when BMI used to operate from Luton to Jersey during the summer months, when they had long delays and the odd day they could not get in.
Some might remember BA operating a Tristar into Jersey to try and clear a backlog due to weather cancellations.
"ROC10" Airlines will always operate to airports that are prone to weather issues, even if some might say it makes no sense.
Jet2 already operate to an airport that some might say is a risk because of weather, Funchal is that airport.
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Old 17th Oct 2020, 10:52
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Some might remember BA operating a Tristar into Jersey to try and clear a backlog due to weather cancellations.
I remember this, as a young lad who happened to be on holiday in Guernsey at the time. I think it was in August, late 70's. It made the news on both islands.
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 14:32
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3x JET2 flights on Saturday 31 October from MAN to RHODES (and more than one a day on other days too) - maxing out the few destinations they can get to for a final hurrah this summer?
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 23:37
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Flights to HER added back into the schedule for a few weeks too. People still want to go away. The A321 made its first trip to PFO yesterday from MAN and went out full, all with negative COVID tests too. People just want to get away for a well deserved break wherever they can go.

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Old 19th Oct 2020, 15:14
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Originally Posted by irishlad06 View Post
Flights to HER added back into the schedule for a few weeks too. People still want to go away. The A321 made its first trip to PFO today from MAN and went out full, all with negative COVID tests too. People just want to get away for a well deserved break wherever they can go.

Don't think you are correct, no Airbus flight to PFO today! P
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 15:49
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[QUOTE=Mr @ Spotty M;10905959]Yes "stewyb" l guarantee that there will be days between May and September that they will not be able to land.
I remember from way back when BMI used to operate from Luton to Jersey during the summer months, when they had long delays and the odd day they could not get in.
Some might remember BA operating a Tristar into Jersey to try and clear a backlog due to weather cancellations.

This might help, August 1979 I believe. 16000 passengers were stranded on Jersey, I took this on the day.


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Old 19th Oct 2020, 17:27
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[QUOTE=Flitefone;10907511]
Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M View Post
Yes "stewyb" l guarantee that there will be days between May and September that they will not be able to land.
I remember from way back when BMI used to operate from Luton to Jersey during the summer months, when they had long delays and the odd day they could not get in.
Some might remember BA operating a Tristar into Jersey to try and clear a backlog due to weather cancellations.

This might help, August 1979 I believe. 16000 passengers were stranded on Jersey, I took this on the day.


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Old 19th Oct 2020, 17:39
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Originally Posted by rotorwills View Post
Don't think you are correct, no Airbus flight to PFO today! P
It was yesterday (18th).
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