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Old 1st Jun 2020, 13:28
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Originally Posted by Stick Flying View Post
Not suggested but implied. The implication was why would you sell off a profitable part of the business. Well because, 100m driven into a potentially more profitable business is better than 3.9M per annum. Heaven forbid someone see's the logic in the decision. Alas I can see the logic.
Sell your peripheral businesses to protect your core or keep a broad base of activities to maintain the resilience of the whole? Either are valid, I can see the logic of both...
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 13:51
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Originally Posted by Stick Flying View Post
Not suggested but implied. The implication was why would you sell off a profitable part of the business. Well because, 100m driven into a potentially more profitable business is better than 3.9M per annum. Heaven forbid someone see's the logic in the decision. Alas I can see the logic.
I presume negotiations have been going on for some time probably before Covid19 surfaced.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 13:53
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Sell your peripheral businesses to protect your core or keep a broad base of activities to maintain the resilience of the whole? Either are valid, I can see the logic of both...
Agreed to a point. But when the peripheral reaches a level so insignificant to the core, the capital value is worth more than return on investment. This is where I see the Dart group investors have weighed up the options and wisely decided the FWC operation is not in their interests to keep. I have to agree.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 08:02
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post

A company that does food distribution and also an airline seems a little unfocussed to me - Dart have to decide what kind of company they want to be, what their core market is and then do it well
You need to read up on the company history, without Fowler Welch there would be no Jet2.com. Unfocused is not a word to describe Mr. Meeson, this sale would be a massive wrench to him. Looks like the money from the sale will aid the business he is now only concentrated on.

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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 09:00
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I'm very much aware of Dart pre Jet2, but at some point a company has to decide what it wants to be... and it looks like they have done so
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 12:25
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Many of the Fowler Welch trucks are also mobile advertising bill-boards for Jet2/Jet2 Holidays, so I guess we'll see the end of that?
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 17:21
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Originally Posted by Vokes55 View Post
Probably a repatriation flight taking Greeks back to Athens in the absence of schedule services.

Why would Jet2 be taking people to connect to an Air China flight from Athens when 6x Air China aircraft leave LHR every day?
Have just received word that these were indeed charters for the repatriation of Chinese students in the U.K.

As mentioned before, a similar flight will be operated on June 6th. Pax flights STN-ATH, positioning back.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 20:10
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Originally Posted by Gurnard View Post
Anyone know why LS6088 is currently flying from STN to ATH?
It was a repatriation flight for Chinese students to catch a flight from Athens back to China.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 20:42
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I suppose they will Covid19 test them in Athens, isolate them overnight, and allow them to proceed if clear. This is what they plan for summer visitors
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 13:59
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Jet2 2020 Schedule

Does anyone have inside information when Jet2 are likely to announce there flight schedule for July/August

We know common knowledge that 1st July is the likely outcome for most airlines.

As example MAN/PMI Ryanair was genuinely 3 flights per day pre covid-19 before schedule was updated and are now daily in July and mostly 2 daily in August Easyjet was genuinely 2 daily flights but schedule updated to 5 weekly before mid July, then daily rest of July and mainly double daily in August.

However jet 2 still have on sale 3 daily flights in July and August which I very much doubt will be the case even 01/07/20 shows 3 flights each way

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Old 7th Jun 2020, 14:21
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I hardly think such information would would be made available on a public forum like this, you are probably better asking them the question direct via their Facebook or twitter pages.
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 21:03
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Originally Posted by SCFC1EP View Post
Does anyone have inside information when Jet2 are likely to announce there flight schedule for July/August

We know common knowledge that 1st July is the likely outcome for most airlines.

As example MAN/PMI Ryanair was genuinely 3 flights per day pre covid-19 before schedule was updated and are now daily in July and mostly 2 daily in August Easyjet was genuinely 2 daily flights but schedule updated to 5 weekly before mid July, then daily rest of July and mainly double daily in August.

However jet 2 still have on sale 3 daily flights in July and August which I very much doubt will be the case even 01/07/20 shows 3 flights each way
i doubt they will even know this at the minute it changes every day or week

which countries will allow us in
how many pax are willing to still travel and havenít changed plans.

which airports will be open
which hotels will be open
resorts will be open

too much to even think about at the minute


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Old 7th Jun 2020, 21:25
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As above. I also suspect the 1st July will be exceptionally optimistic for any of the package tour operators to recommence.

Regardless of the logistics of all the above there needs to be an announcement of the FCO travel advice relaxation and also the mythical 'air bridges' to be established. These would need to be announced in the next couple of days to have any hope of a July 1st restart.

There's also the small matter of getting the workforce back into work and the no small task of getting the aircraft out of storage ready for service.
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 21:27
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We are talking about flights starting in 3 weeks

What airports are closed?

Hotels are opening in Spain and other Countries and these don't just say oh by the way we open tomorrow,it will take time for hotels to be operational staff/food services put back into place, this would start many weeks before opening

Resorts are open, but with less capacity in bars/shops/hotels etc

Find it hard to believe that Ryanair and easyjet can plan for over two months in advance, but jet2 don't yet know,

European airlines are restarting on a reduced frequency,Emirates are starting reduced frequency and set out plans to September but Jet2 are still showing full schedule as pre covid19 starting on there first day of operations after no flights at all for over 2 months

Are they just hoping customers are stupid enough to think they have more flights available that other airlines take there money then to tell them sorry we are only operating 1 flight a day not 3 a day or 1 flight a week not 3 flights a week but you can change your flight just away to get that extra bit of £££££ in before cancelling your flight
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 21:39
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I had a jet2 flight cancelled for later this month. I got an email setting out options, but if I wanted a refund to wait and they would be in contact, they were dealing with flights in order. A few days later I got an email saying they were processing a refund. Two days later money was back into my account. I never had to lift the phone. Isn't it really disappointing that they have given me no reason at all to complain.
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 21:45
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"Find it hard to believe that Ryanair and easyjet can plan for over two months in advance, but jet2 don't yet know"

Package tour operators cannot operate with the current FCO travel advice in place. They pretty much cannot operate with the farcical quarantine in place.

Do you know when the FCO advice will change? Do you know if quarantine will be lifted? Because at present none of the airlines do.
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 21:50
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I also had a flight cancelled and got refund easy and quite fast considering the situation, also had good response from Easyjet refund to card for one flight and various vouchers for others which are more suited to me than refunds, Ryanair no refund just vouchers
So for customer service during recent times yes Jet2 have been alot better than others, but the question remains why still show full schedule with just over 3 weeks notice when knowingly that full schedule will not be happening and neither will it be with any airline
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 22:02
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Package tour operators cannot operate with the current FCO travel advice in place. They pretty much cannot operate with the farcical quarantine in place.

Thanks Yeehaw22 wasn't aware above makes bit more sense

Easyjet/ryanair have packages also but suppose they have more flight only bookings also compared to Jet2 and this government is doing it's best to kill the airline/tourist industry
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 06:00
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I think this is a very fluid situation and reading the papers yesterday there is pressure coming from many sources.

The killer at the moment is the FO no travel notice which in effect leaves you on your own and insurance invalid.

To have this removed by 01.07.20 is tight as the 21 day period takes us almost to the month end.
Clearly Government have top give a steer and I think " air bridges" are being worked on.

Nobody knows how they will work or how aircraft will operate.
I am struggling to see much moving on 01.07 but rather a slow opening up during late july.

Just where will people holiday this year?
UK hotels closed and no sign of a formal date ( they need time as well) and most uk resorts closed in the sense of pubs/toilets etc its going to be a right mess.

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Old 8th Jun 2020, 06:31
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Its worth noting the advise from the Foreign Office changed very subtly from ‘Advising against all but essential travel indefinitely’, to ‘we currently advise against all but essential travel’.
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