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Old 4th Dec 2019, 18:44
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Originally Posted by GoEDI View Post
What exactly is a premium heavy 757? As far as I'm aware, the international flat bed configured aircraft (75S) all have the same 16 seat capacity?

If it's showing more than 16 seats that would mean a domestic first configured aircraft. I wouldn't class that as a good thing as it's an inferior product that they charge less for, hence normally goes on lower yielding routes.
It must be international as there are 16 flat bed seats still, Although the back is greyed out so there is only 72 economy seats up for sale on both flights instead of the usual 108 on international configured 757?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 08:42
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
It must be international as there are 16 flat bed seats still, Although the back is greyed out so there is only 72 economy seats up for sale on both flights instead of the usual 108 on international configured 757?
so basically its the same aircraft configuration they've always used, and you're just making things up now?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 09:31
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GoEDI - thank you for your response re stand planning.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 09:33
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Originally Posted by nighthawk117 View Post
so basically its the same aircraft configuration they've always used, and you're just making things up now?
Absolutely not, Look at the post properly, I said instead of 108 Economy seats there is only 72 Available, check the seat map yourself and you will see the back rows are all Greyed out.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 10:00
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Absolutely not, Look at the post properly, I said instead of 108 Economy seats there is only 72 Available, check the seat map yourself and you will see the back rows are all Greyed out.
I'm getting lost now - so it has the same number of Premium seats, but they are selling fewer economy seats? So they aren't increasing the number of Premium seats, but it becomes 'premium heavy' by selling fewer economy seats?

Isn't that more likely to do with range concerns due to stronger winter Westerlies??
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 10:00
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They want to focus on BHX, MAN and STN
That bit is certainly true and why they bought the TCX slots at BHX and MAN. At BHX there is still capacity to be filled on Med routes (and plenty of terminal capacity) after the demise of Monarch in 2017. Jet2 have done a fine job of doing so and have further growth plans for BHX, fleet size permitting. I believe the plan was to get to 20 based aircraft by 2022, this has now changed as a result of the MAX issues.

Other bases like EDI will also continue to see Jet2 growth but the main focus for growth (particularly new destinations and additional based aircraft) will be the aforementioned airports. EDI was not considered by Jet2 for the launch of LIS flights in 2020.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 14:14
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Originally Posted by Flightrider View Post
They never had any plans to operate EDI-LIS! Why are you making this stuff up?
It's what he does. It's a new EDI fantasy every day. I wonder what nonsense he'll post tomorrow.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 16:32
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
It must be international as there are 16 flat bed seats still, Although the back is greyed out so there is only 72 economy seats up for sale on both flights instead of the usual 108 on international configured 757?
Perhaps Delta is planning to adjust the number of business and/or premium economy seats on its Edinburgh services? If so, it would make sense to restrict the number of economy seats it sells until plans are finalised. These are the five existing seat layouts for their B752s;
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/De...57-200_75S.php
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 16:38
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Originally Posted by Porrohman View Post
Perhaps Delta is planning to adjust the number of business and/or premium economy seats on its Edinburgh services? If so, it would make sense to restrict the number of economy seats it sells until plans are finalised. These are the five existing seat layouts for their B752s;
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/De...57-200_75S.php
But the other configs all have more than 108 seats so it would make no sense to reduce that number further. You could sell as many seats as you have on the least dense plane - therefore you could sell at least 108 seats if this was the case.

As for the other user, whats the point in posting about how many new routes you know of? What use is that information if you want to keep it to yourself. Either its true and happening or its not. You adopt quite an aggressive tone with users who are clearly as clued up or more so than you not just on this site but others too. Look at the arguments you had over the slot report request.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 16:44
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Originally Posted by BA318 View Post
But the other configs all have more than 108 seats so it would make no sense to reduce that number further. You could sell as many seats as you have on the least dense plane - therefore you could sell at least 108 seats if this was the case.

As for the other user, whats the point in posting about how many new routes you know of? What use is that information if you want to keep it to yourself. Either its true and happening or its not. You adopt quite an aggressive tone with users who are clearly as clued up or more so than you not just on this site but others too. Look at the arguments you had over the slot report request.
Tbf you have a point, I need to just keep it to myself and post factual information. Sorry if what I said has come across as aggresive as I never meant it to seem like that.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 17:02
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
Tbf you have a point, I need to just keep it to myself and post factual information. Sorry if what I said has come across as aggresive as I never meant it to seem like that.
That's not strictly true though, is it? Isn't this a "rumour network"? I wouldn't define a "rumour" as being entirely "factual information".

I guess what others are getting at is that there should be some more substance to such rumours, regardless of whether sources are "anonymous", etc.

I still see no harm in posting rumours that fail to transpire, it's only a forum at the end of the day. Although admittedly, it does look like some clear mistruths may have been posted here previously.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 17:04
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Something else to note is that Delta's B752s are powered by PW2037s which are slightly more fuel efficient but a lot less powerful than the RR engines in AA and UA B752s. According to the detailed performance figures available on the Boeing website, the generic PW2037 powered B752 can be slightly payload restricted opearting out of EDI due to runway length depending upon prevailing weather, runway condition and runway in use. Runway 06 on a warm, wet day is the more restrictive one because of the proximity of the railway embankment and thus the much shorter clearway available to reach a safe height.

https://www.boeing.com/commercial/ai...n_manuals.page

Without access to the exact weights for Delta's aircraft, I can't say whether this restriction applies to them but it's not inconceivable that a more premium heavy version could make sense for Delta if they can fill the premium seats. I expect they will already know the answer to that question.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 20:29
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
It must be international as there are 16 flat bed seats still, Although the back is greyed out so there is only 72 economy seats up for sale on both flights instead of the usual 108 on international configured 757?
I expect that will be a combination of seats already sold, and perhaps some seat blocks by the airline that will be released at a later date for a variety of reasons. The seat maps showing are just the standard 168 seat B75Ws used on most international services.
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 11:43
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My guess is that Delta is planning to increase the number of premium economy seats in the international configured B752s at the expense of standard economy. Time will tell.
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 19:38
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Now Plane Mad 134 heres something for you to get giddy over....
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...in-march-2020/
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 19:43
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Now Plane Mad 134 heres something for you to get giddy over....
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...in-march-2020/
A rugby flight, There is also one available for Rome too.
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 14:09
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Welcome back. Your time-out break was short lived.
So the rugby charter was even less exciting than the much maligned BACF Mykonos/Dublin 'rumours' ?
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 15:16
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Welcome back. Your time-out break was short lived.
So the rugby charter was even less exciting than the much maligned BACF Mykonos/Dublin 'rumours' ?
Yes I feel that even though some people may not like my snippets of rumours or info I can say there is some who do, therefore I decided I will continue to post what I know or what is potentially going to happen in the future. Back to news though, If the news article is correct about Icelandair and I have got the EDI bit correct then we may see an announcement this week as that was what the article said.
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 17:55
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And with EasyJet possibly announcing new routes tommorow, I think Gibraltar and Catania are frontrunners to be announced. Does anyone know when Gibraltar was last served from EDI?
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Old 10th Dec 2019, 18:04
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Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 View Post
And with EasyJet possibly announcing new routes tommorow, I think Gibraltar and Catania are frontrunners to be announced. Does anyone know when Gibraltar was last served from EDI?
Has it ever been?
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