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Old 28th Jul 2019, 16:16
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Many thanks. It makes it easy to understand the issues.
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Old 30th Jul 2019, 15:36
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June C.A.A. dataset now published on their website.

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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 09:57
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The last EDI - PEK service now confirmed as 10th October !
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 10:42
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Any decision as to whether it will return next summer? I read somewhere that Chinese-UK tourism is up 20% this year.
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 11:12
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Any decision as to whether it will return next summer?.
Doubt it's coming back. Wrong routing, wrong airline. If it couldn't sustain even half loads with a double drop on cheap fares and block bookings, what would change next year? Though in saying that suspect most pax were inbound Chinese who don't seem bothered by routings or cost and airline is eminently more recognisable at their end. Will be interesting to see how the new DUB standalone route does... MAN not exactly flourishing with theirs.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 07:41
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Wizzair?

Heard a snippet on the radio this morning about Wizzair operating from EDI. Didnít catch the whole conversation. Is this true? Routes? Impact on GLA?
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 07:47
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Not sure about Wizzair, but there would likely be a small impact on the Glasgow service, if they did start Edinburgh. Also Delta have 90% LF on their Boston route, pretty good for the first season.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 07:49
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Four routes:

BUD three weekly from 21 December
GDN three weekly from 19 December
WAW four weekly from 18 December
OTP twice weekly from 23 December

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Old 5th Aug 2019, 08:47
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Four routes:

BUD three weekly from 21 December
GDN three weekly from 19 December
WAW four weekly from 18 December
OTP twice weekly from 23 December
So much for Brexit! Good news, though suspect its the end of GLA routes. Or an anticipation of a big FR reduction?
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 09:04
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Three of the four are FR routes and I can't imagine that there's traffic for two airlines.
The economies of Poland and other E European countries have grown under EU membership to the point where they don't need to export their young people, so the business is, surely, mainly family visits. The voids in our labour market are, I believe, being filled from Romania, and from countries outside the EU such Ukraine.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 09:10
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Yeah, looks like Wizzair smell blood as Ryanair look likely to base cut.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 10:06
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Wizzair press release here which says the routes start on the 1st and 2nd November, whereas they're currently on sale starting from the dates in December listed above.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 17:20
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post

Doubt it's coming back. Wrong routing, wrong airline. If it couldn't sustain even half loads with a double drop on cheap fares and block bookings, what would change next year? Though in saying that suspect most pax were inbound Chinese who don't seem bothered by routings or cost and airline is eminently more recognisable at their end. Will be interesting to see how the new DUB standalone route does... MAN not exactly flourishing with theirs.

That's ashame because, properly marketed, there is surely sustainable demand.

Is the DUB portion continuing in its own right? Surely that would be surprising - were loads not consistently better (even though they were low) on the direct EDI-Beijing sectors? I believe the DUB-Shenzhen route loads are extremely poor too.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 21:21
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I could see Wizzair once settled in, opening more routes over time, will be interesting to see how this pans out.
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 08:21
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American are due to be making an announcement soon, could Edinburgh have a change, it was leaked they were going to shuffle up everything.
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 08:55
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Quite possibly an upgauge to 763/787 or year round service! The Philly route was the best performing North American route from Edinburgh according to the C.A.A. June stats.
When United upgauged their Newark service at Manchester from a 757 service to a 764 passenger numbers jumped! No doubt the all important yeild might have taken a hit!

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Old 7th Aug 2019, 11:15
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Originally Posted by globaltraveller View Post
That's ashame because, properly marketed, there is surely sustainable demand.

Is the DUB portion continuing in its own right? Surely that would be surprising - were loads not consistently better (even though they were low) on the direct EDI-Beijing sectors? I believe the DUB-Shenzhen route loads are extremely poor too.
I'd be surprised if either of these Chinese routes operate from Dublin direct over the winter months neither are bookable at the moment....
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 11:40
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I'd be surprised if either of these Chinese routes operate from Dublin direct over the winter months neither are bookable at the moment....
In Dublin Cathay is doing well and Hainan launched their Schenzhen route in response to Cathay's Hong Kong. It was a last minute launch without time to get forward bookings in order. Seems like poor planning. The brand doesn't resonate in Ireland, though that doesn't matter the greatest share of the pax will be originating in Asia.
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 09:44
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post

So much for Brexit! Good news, though suspect its the end of GLA routes. Or an anticipation of a big FR reduction?

https://twitter.com/BBCDouglasF/status/1159396989899071488


"Days after WizzAir announced Edinburgh @EDI_Airport links to Gdansk, Warsaw, Budapest + Bucharest, Ryanair says it’s winter schedule will add the Romanian capital and increase services into the other 3. Perhaps the traffic of east European workers will step up post-Brexit."
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 09:48
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Wow, so much for the base being changed.
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