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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 10:57
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Good to see more capacity at Cork for the winter. Where has the extra capacity come from for the three new winter routes? FAO, LIS and MUC are all additions for the winter.
The Lisbon schedule is now visible, so it looks like we can answer this question. There has been a bit of juggling round and it appears to me that there is also a small frequency increase on Malaga. The loser in all this seems to be Lanzarote, which is currently showing at 1x weekly as long as EI allow future bookings. With the loads and prices charged, that had always looked like a bit of a cash cow, but with the long sectors, it looks like extra flights can be squeezed out of the aircraft by reducing frequency. Plus, Ryanair capacity increases on the route in recent years may have been hurting.

In other news, Newquay will now run to October 6th, so a slightly extended season.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 16:18
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Originally Posted by 840 View Post
The Lisbon schedule is now visible, so it looks like we can answer this question. There has been a bit of juggling round and it appears to me that there is also a small frequency increase on Malaga. The loser in all this seems to be Lanzarote, which is currently showing at 1x weekly as long as EI allow future bookings. With the loads and prices charged, that had always looked like a bit of a cash cow, but with the long sectors, it looks like extra flights can be squeezed out of the aircraft by reducing frequency. Plus, Ryanair capacity increases on the route in recent years may have been hurting.

In other news, Newquay will now run to October 6th, so a slightly extended season.
ACE was or is due to run Tue (09.15), Thu (13.30) and Sat (13.30). I think the schedule has space at those times and should be out in a few days.

ACE also ran Mon last winter so LIS replaces this along with a re-shuffle of Canaries.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 21:32
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Originally Posted by 840 View Post
The loser in all this seems to be Lanzarote, which is currently showing at 1x weekly as long as EI allow future bookings. With the loads and prices charged, that had always looked like a bit of a cash cow, but with the long sectors, it looks like extra flights can be squeezed out of the aircraft by reducing frequency. Plus, Ryanair capacity increases on the route in recent years may have been hurting.
Not sure where your working that one out, ACE is 3 weekly for next Winter. Over all Aer Lingus are increasing both weekly flights and capacity next Winter.

Ryanair have loaded Cork-Santander onto their booking engine, although with no flights yet available. Seems to me it's highly possible FR want to go after the new ferry service operated by Brittany Ferries.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 22:09
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Santander was for planned Rugby specials, loaded from SNN as well.
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 22:56
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Santander was for planned Rugby specials, loaded from SNN as well.
Ah! Many thanks
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 08:14
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It's only showing as bookable on Saturdays from November. Now I do believe that the extra capacity could be offered from November to February just with extra utilization of the current fleet, but after that something has to give.

Incidentally, Lanzarote was 4x weekly with Aer Lingus over the last Winter season, so even 3x weekly would be a small reduction.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 08:38
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KLM Codeshare
It seems that over the summer the KLM codeshare is on only a few of the flights but in the winter it returns to all of them, at least on the KLM website.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 18:26
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Is Gdańsk suspended for the winter, thought it was a year round service, also is Newcastle fully axed or will it be a seasonal service. Such a long standing route itís a shame to see it go unserved
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 19:12
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Gdansk was never year round
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 19:38
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Gdansk was never year round
Been year round since it began in W06/07!
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 00:42
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My mistake, thought it was just Wroclaw
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 06:46
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Just wondering do you know what the EI movements in regards aircraft over next week. Heading to FAO on 23rd just wondering will GAM,DEF,DEG or DEH be moved back to DUB and replaced? always interested to see what one i would end up on.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 08:57
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Any new route announcements for Cork? It`s all gone a bit quiet. Don`t see why Aer Lingus don`t extend their Dusseldorf service all year round, it seems to be going well.
London routes are really busy, time for Stobart to come in a launch a route to London Southend or London City. Brussels on an ATR72 would suit Cork too!
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 22:47
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Bet Stobart are not too pleased with the current Aer Lingus IT problems. It`s not possible to book flights between Cork and Southampton all day long...good news for Ryanair and their London Gatwick service, though that is almost always full anyway like their London Stansted services! Cork needs more services to London.

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Old 20th Jul 2018, 09:57
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I agree that London could support more capacity, but who will provide it?

Aer Lingus and Ryanair have an interest in keeping yields high and will fight to keep others away.

Gatwick, in particular, could do with more capacity, but Ryanair's position there is defensive, trying to ensure that the route is unattractive to any carrier who may come in and dilute yields on their Stansted service.

In some ways, the least resistance would be on increases to Heathrow, where IAG could decide that more connecting traffic could compensate for a reduction in yield, but where is a slot going to come from in Heathrow? Cork is lucky to have the level of service it has at the moment.
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Old 20th Jul 2018, 11:14
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Another day of Aer Lingus IT problems, Cork-Southampton is still not bookable but poor old Stobart (Aer Lingus Regional) are still operating the flights!
Aer Lingus are causing Stobart a loss of revenue!
Regarding more services between London and Cork, an increase in London Gatwick services is really needed but I agree Ryanair are loath to do it.
FlyBe from London City or Stobart from London Southend or London Luton would be the lead candidates I think for more services between London and Cork.
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Old 20th Jul 2018, 11:17
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In some good news, Norwegian's Providence service is confirmed for summer 2019 at the same frequency as this year.
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Old 15th Aug 2018, 01:27
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Dublin route?

Just some ideas and thoughts on route development; I've always been curious as to whether there is opportunity to restart the Ork-Dub service, and if there is demand for a service offering connectivity through Dub rather than relying on point to point traffic alone. Such a service could have the potential to boost passenger numbers at Ork, transit numbers in Dub, car park revenues at Cork, incremental connecting traffic with the airline(s) and associated incremental revenue from such a service offering.

Would there be any potential interest in Stobart or even EI offering a Dublin route with the main aim for connectivity to EIs long haul (or even short haul?) flights? Yes there are cheap aircoach fares to Dublin, but surely there would be a proportion of people that would pay for the convenience of through checking to/from Cork with the convenience of baggage transfers and transit security function in Dublin? Would the arrangement between Stobart and EI allow for this? Between the Daa and EI, there must be stats showing volume of origin of pax from Cork, with the opportunity to make incremental revenue based on offering the transit between Cork and Dublin by air rather than by car, train or bus.

Could Stobart also consider combining such a service with a Dublin departing service, such as Dub-Ncl, thereby also offering Ork pax a Ork-Ncl service via a stop in Dublin on the same aircraft? This would then split the capacity between point to point, an indirect route and interconnecting traffic.

If such a Ork-Dub service was 3 times a day on an ATR it could equate to similar traffic to a direct once a day operation to the States for example.

Short-haul connecting flights are quite prevalent in the States and Norwegian and Ryanair offer such a service in selected Countries in Europe. Perhaps Aer Lingus would consider offering this facility through a Cork-Dublin flight, offering onward connections to their short-haul network in addition to their long haul network? This could indirectly boost Cork services such as Munich which has a limited direct schedule and could benefit from being offered in conjunction with connecting services on results for return flight searches on the airline website.

I have also seen that FR are offering connecting flights in countries like Italy. Would they perhaps be willing to roll out such an offering to allow Ork passengers connect to their Dublin network if a flight was re-established between Ork and Dub, benefitting from any incremental margin from offering such a connecting service?

Perhaps a survey via the airport or Cork Chamber could help gauge demand for such a service, and what premium passengers would consider paying to start/finish their journey at Cork Airport and to connect to Dublin via air?

Any thoughts, comments or opinions would be welcome
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 14:03
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Ryanair have announced a new winter destination. Luton. It is reported as being 6 weekly, currently bookable at 5 weekly, Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun.

FR7680 LTN 1700 ORK 1830 1, 5
FR7681 ORK 1855 LTN 2225 1, 5

FR7680 LTN 1645 ORK 1815 3
FR7681 ORK 1840 LTN 2010 3

FR7680 LTN 1820 ORK 1950 4
FR7681 ORK 2015 LTN 2145 4

FR7680 LTN 1715 ORK 1845 7
FR7681 ORK 1915 LTN 2045 7

Good news for the airport, even if not the most exciting destination. Luton is a bread and butter route that has been missing for quite a while.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 14:22
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Cork - London Southend is a route which I'm somewhat surprised hasn't (yet) come onto the destination boards. With Ryanair's planned new 3 aircraft based at SEN from Spring 2019, maybe they'll run both a Dublin and Cork schedule. Wonder if there is demand for a Cork - London Southend service? Plenty of beautiful places of interest to us UK folk around the Cork region.
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