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Old 28th May 2018, 19:56
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How very true, people will moan about anything, my moan is the traffic going to work down the A34. Airports
Hmmh difficult as I find CDG a bloody awful place makes MAN look and feel a dream. If you go to any venue when it is
really busy you just expect delays be it bus, train or concert venue.
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Old 28th May 2018, 20:28
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chaps, yes, apologies for omitting you from the list.

There are good dreams and bad dreams though. Why should you "just expect delays" at venues though?
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Old 28th May 2018, 21:55
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A15 minute wait at security on one of the busiest days of the year is acceptable if all the desks are open. They werenít hence it isnít acceptable.
Did MAG not know that it was going to be a busy day or were they just saving money and making the passenger experience worse than it needed to be deliberately.
Surely the aim of management should be to make the passenger experience as good as it can be within the current physical constraints of the terminals.
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Old 28th May 2018, 22:21
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Caravaggio,

I’m not getting involved, I’m aiming to just post routes news going forward. I’m just simply not interested in how long it takes individuals to go through security.
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Old 28th May 2018, 22:30
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15 minutes is damn good took me 2 hours at Toronto years ago and over a hour at CDG plus all the delay with the long walk and then train and then another walk just to clear customs

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Old 29th May 2018, 00:38
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Guys,

This forum is about airports as well as routes and I think that Caravaggio has a good point - the airport should be working hard to give a passenger the best possible experience. We can all highlight airports where there has a been a long wait for security, but in general I wait less than 5 minutes to clear security, even at busy periods, at most airports I travel through both in Europe and Asia - less than 5 minutes at both Hong Kong and Haneda this week for example.

Like others, I have had a good and bad experiences at Manchester - the bad ones are always when they have insufficient lanes open and lack the staffing/flexibility to open extra ones. They could learn lessons from LHR T5 which is much improved in the last 12 months..... nobody shouting or being aggressive, smiling staff, and a pleasant experience with all lanes open on every occasion I have been through. The key to this improvement, I think, seems to be having at least one duty manager in the security area at all times.
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Old 29th May 2018, 06:38
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I feel I am missing out.
50 minutes to get through Jet2 T1 security last week.
= no spend in any shops & straight to gate.

New TP is all well and good but that wonít solve Manchester issues.
The current issues could be improved- security lanes open, better queue management, lifts walkways and escalators working, traffic management improved ( rather than another cash opportunity like fast track etc). Consistency in security procedures too.
The customer experience could be enhanced by the simplest changes. Given we have a dated piss poor infrastructure then these things should be top priority.
i have a T3 trip next week and just dread going to that hole.

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Old 29th May 2018, 07:49
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Oops - bish, bash, bosh
Currently ongoing situation
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...crack-14717762
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Old 29th May 2018, 08:50
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The airport is in the middle of a major infrastructure upgrade so we have to accept that for a limited time the services are going to be less than ideal. I myself have recently experienced real improvements in transfer times through security and passport control and there is always the option to pay a bit more and go through quicker. As for toilets, food, drink etc. at busy times the airport is clearly struggling to cope with demand. I'm sure we will see some improvements in the next couple of years but in the meantime we will have to manage and feedback constructively to the airport. When you visit other airports across the world is not the worst by a margin but still needs to improve.
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Old 29th May 2018, 09:15
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Major infrastructure upgrade

True but falling through the floor should not be a part of the customer experience !

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Old 29th May 2018, 09:28
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I must be seriously lucky... flying 4 to 6 times a month to/from Manchester for the past 3 years at varying times, from different terminals, with different airlines and using the various official car parks close to the terminals, I don't seem to come across so much disruption as others claim to experience.

Recently I've been leaving the Premier Inn on Runger Lane at 5:20am, driving to T1 M&G, through security, grabbed a drink from WH Smith and still had 5 minutes to sit down before the gate opens for a 6:20am flight.

More often than not, I spend more time queuing at security in Gibraltar (which only ever has 2 or 3 flights departing) than I do in Manchester.

I would suspect the main user of the airport, an average holidaymaker has little issue with what some people are complaining of on here.
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Old 29th May 2018, 09:48
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Lee can I travel with you? I usually pass through 2-5 times a months & I do not recognise your experience in any way.
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Old 29th May 2018, 10:33
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[ Who cares about employing enough staff to ensure that the airport operates efficiently on the first really busy weekend of the season. ]
It's not just MAG who are under-staffing, Every service provider is knowingly doing the same - Handling agents/cleaners/Fuellers.... it's now become an accepted way of operating to the frustration of the guys and gals who actually have to do the job.
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Old 29th May 2018, 11:26
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It's not just MAG who are under-staffing, Every service provider is knowingly doing the same - Handling agents/cleaners/Fuellers.... it's now become an accepted way of operating to the frustration of the guys and gals who actually have to do the job.
The phrase is "you get what you pay for"!
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Old 29th May 2018, 12:14
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Originally Posted by Mr A Tis View Post
Lee can I travel with you? I usually pass through 2-5 times a months & I do not recognise your experience in any way.
Sure as long as you don't slow me down at security unpacking your bag into 4 or 5 trays

Like I say... I must be very lucky
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Old 30th May 2018, 15:14
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New Virgin route to Los Angeles starts May 22nd 2019. Boston increases to 3 weekly, Las Vegas to 4 weekly as well as B747 on daily New York and Atlanta. Barbados also sees a B747. 6 based aircraft overall.

San Fransisco gets the chop however.

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/virgin...xpansion-14338

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Old 30th May 2018, 15:23
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR View Post
New Virgin route to Los Angeles starts May 22nd 2018.
Presume thatís 2019?
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Old 30th May 2018, 15:49
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Thanks for the info.

If BGI is a B747, it would suggest 4 x B747s fully occupied if MCO were say 12 x weekly, unless some MCO flights were A332/3. It could also mean LAS, LAX, and BOS would be A332 or A333s. Do we know the full fleet breakdown for MAN at this stage?
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Old 30th May 2018, 16:12
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Very welcome news after todays 2h45 TCX delay to LAX (another 15 mins.......)

Is this the missing Long Haul announcement?
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Old 30th May 2018, 16:24
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No the missing one is Thai.

the fact itís appearing in several news outlets as Ďcoming sooní means itís no big secret.
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