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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 16:58
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Am I right in saying that it is the first November that Thomas Cook has ceased to operate any rotations from STN ?

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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 17:14
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EssexMan61

The way I look at it is this.

You have various options. But you are personally choosing none of them. You know the rules and how it is well ahead of your travels. You canít complain about it when you are choosing to go against the rules. Itís no different to someone turning up at the gate with an oversize bag and getting the hump when they knew well in advance it wasnít allowed on board and then causing a stink. You see, this is the problem with our society today. So many folk are full of self importance and just because they donít like it, they feel itís their right to go against it. But you canít get the a*** about it because you have/had options. Itís YOU thatís choosing not to accept any of them.

If if you donít like how it is then you really do need to reassess the situation and perhaps book a different flight from a different airport. If itís Southend however, donít turn up too early as the airport terminal is closed overnight and itís damn cold outside this time of year.

To to be blunt, it is you thatís making the situation awkward for yourself. And the only person it affects is you Iím afraid.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 17:22
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Iíve just looked at the Airport Premier Inn over the next few weeks and there are rooms available from £45-£56 which I think is pretty good for an onsite stay and youíll get a good nightís sleep.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 21:34
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Originally Posted by pamann View Post
EssexMan61

The way I look at it is this.

You have various options. But you are personally choosing none of them. You know the rules and how it is well ahead of your travels. You canít complain about it when you are choosing to go against the rules. Itís no different to someone turning up at the gate with an oversize bag and getting the hump when they knew well in advance it wasnít allowed on board and then causing a stink. You see, this is the problem with our society today. So many folk are full of self importance and just because they donít like it, they feel itís their right to go against it. But you canít get the a*** about it because you have/had options. Itís YOU thatís choosing not to accept any of them.

If if you donít like how it is then you really do need to reassess the situation and perhaps book a different flight from a different airport. If itís Southend however, donít turn up too early as the airport terminal is closed overnight and itís damn cold outside this time of year.

To to be blunt, it is you thatís making the situation awkward for yourself. And the only person it affects is you Iím afraid.
It's times like this when I wish that PPRuNe had a ''like'' button because your post is absolutely spot on, well done to you Sir :-)
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Old 3rd Nov 2018, 06:53
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Just to add our so called ĎKGBí men and women will only ask you to move if you are lying down, blocking entrances or blocking fire exits and emergency equipment. They DO NOT go around waking everyone up, just the ones going against the rules.
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Old 3rd Nov 2018, 08:20
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Originally Posted by EssexMan61 View Post
Thank you aax1 - I am still stuck with the Metro article and its "Police State" claims - I think that "Police State" is normally left-wing - Russia, China, et al???? Is a "Police State" NOT left-wing???? I would never criticise the workers - just the rulers.
Plenty right wing police states have existed across the world - Authoritarian control is one of the signature elements of Extremism “control of the populus and masses “ far from a uniquely left wing practice.

In fact with Armastice day just a week away suggest you do a bit of reading up on the most brutal police state ever within Europe.

Still if your flying somewhere it’s your choice to arrive early and camp out I suppose.

Done it myself when I was a teenager at Gatwick but not these days; far to old and with those many room only hotel chains these days think a nice sleep in the general vicinity of an airport and short taxi ride hardly out of the question to be honest.

Alternative stump up a little cash for a lounge.( not much cheaper than the room only hotel chains so not my choice however it’s an option )





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Old 3rd Nov 2018, 10:43
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New STN service flies today...

EZY...TLV.

A321 POWV still flying STN ops for EXS today tho now devoid of the red Jet 2 titling it has carried all Summer.
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Old 3rd Nov 2018, 13:55
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When I worked overnight at airports I was initially amazed at how full they were all night. IIRC T2 at Heathrow was the most crowded.
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 20:06
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Two unusual movements this evening, FDX9 MD11 CRG-IND diverted to STN
JOTA JOTR on BM1307, ex LDY
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 20:10
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Originally Posted by Stanstedeye View Post
Two unusual movements this evening, FDX9 MD11 CRG-IND diverted to STN
JOTA JOTR on BM1307, ex LDY
Just to correct, BM1507
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Old 7th Nov 2018, 00:43
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Originally Posted by Stanstedeye View Post
Two unusual movements this evening, FDX9 MD11 CRG-IND diverted to STN
JOTA JOTR on BM1307, ex LDY
Regarding the diverted FX flight, I'm assuming you meant CDG rather than CRG which is the airport code for Jacksonville, Florida, USA!
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Old 7th Nov 2018, 09:00
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Nice to see a TAP A332 scheduled today at STN in connection with Sporting Lisbon meeting Arsenal.
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Old 7th Nov 2018, 11:49
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Other than EK does anybody have the long haul schedules pencilled in for STN in 2019. We appear to have lost TCX any chance of a substitute in the horizon ?
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Old 7th Nov 2018, 12:06
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Originally Posted by Stanstedeye View Post
Two unusual movements this evening, FDX9 MD11 CRG-IND diverted to STN
JOTA JOTR on BM1307, ex LDY
Er. FX0009 didn't divert to STN en-route CDG-IND. STN is a scheduled stop on this service and has been for years.
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Old 7th Nov 2018, 14:21
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The Sporting team going back to Lisbon early Friday morning from Luton by Privilege Style. Weird or what!
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Old 7th Nov 2018, 19:26
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Other than EK does anybody have the long haul schedules pencilled in for STN in 2019. We appear to have lost TCX any chance of a substitute in the horizon ?
Other than the daily Emirates connection to Dubai and the long haul freighters there are no other long haul flights currently ''pencilled'' in for STN in 2019.

It is a shame that STN has lost long haul from Thomas Cook as well as TUI as I was expecting both of them to expand rather than cease their long haul operations from the airport having a north London airport complementing their LGW operations.

Thomas Cook could have built up a similar long haul operation at STN to what they have achieved at MAN especially as their long haul operation at LGW is rather small.

Two airlines that I've always thought that STN could have gained and to have been a potential airport for their north London operations are the possibility of seasonal flights with Virgin Atlantic to Orlando and Air Transat returning to the airport and resuming Toronto even if the latter was once or twice weekly.

If and when JetBlue finally announce their intention of flying Transatlantic I'm rather confident that STN will mentioned but until we see an official press release from the company it's just speculation at this point in time.

MAG have stated that they were pursuing a Chinese connection but considering that there have been many new connections from various Chinese airlines recently being started from LHR and the fact they don't seem to hang around at LGW very long I think that it will be a while before we see STN gaining that elusive Chinese connection.

One long haul airline that I could see eventually adding STN to their network is the Singapore Airlines low cost long haul airline SCOOT.

Other than that I can't honestly see what long haul airline could possibly announce STN although I should imagine that Emirates will go double daily at some point.
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Old 8th Nov 2018, 08:12
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Maybe incorrect to parallel LGW & STN regarding the Chinese carriers as MAG are approaching that particular market with a different perspective.

The pitch just as much concerns the East of England & the "Cambridge Corridor" other than just the London Market per se & have achieved large regional backing.

MAG have achieved success for MAN selling regionality to the Chinese & SE Asian market & will have the expertise/contacts & figures to succeed.

As mentioned though the numbers of new services at LHR/LGW must be eating into the number of services agreed/permitted in the latest bilateral.

Chinese carriers are naturally cautious with Western markets & no doubt the "B" word may make them doubly cautious until everyone can resolve where the pieces fall.
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Old 8th Nov 2018, 12:00
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STN and MAN are different though, Manchester isnít London whereas Stansted is and there will be the cultural issue of pride and prestige to overcome in terms of the perception that LHR is the prize to be seen at. CEO X will not want their airline at a lesser airport to CEO Y regardless of its merits.

Iíd also suggest the benefit of Cambridge in the context of a Chinese route is minimal, and STNís best hope with the Chinese market is to poach LHR waiting room traffic from LGW. With a number of routes already at LHR, even that ship looks to have sailed.
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Old 8th Nov 2018, 12:59
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That`s quite funny intentionally or not...

There probably is as with Chinese surnames a Chairman X and a Chairman Y.

Your conjecture v my conjecture only time will tell as they say...although with my caveat concerning natural caution & the "B" cloud.
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Old 8th Nov 2018, 16:23
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Iím not sure the airport really needs it - passengers are passengers and short haul shoves more through the shopping at the terminal.

i too am surprised at TC and TUI but I guess if they were profitable then they would have stayed.

i also think narrow body TA service will work, from either Luton or Stansted. It just needs someone with some solid financial backing to allow the initial slow start curve not to bankrupt them. Iíd have thought seasonal Orlando and Vegas services would sell, but I wonder if thatís enough to justify the cost of operating at another airport for someone like virgin
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