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Old 3rd May 2018, 10:23
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Can`t imagine the CAA are not aware..Most of the complaints via social media outlets are depressingly the same..lack of customer service, ignoring refunds, EU261 claims not acknowledged and left to their own devices when flights are cancelled (frequently).
Yes - none of our well-established UK airlines would dream of acting in this way....
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Old 3rd May 2018, 10:48
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Certainly no one operating from STN.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 12:27
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I make it a net gain of 18 weekly flights from Jet2, assuming the missing Turkey services will operate. Does that mean two additional based aircraft?
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Old 3rd May 2018, 12:55
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2 very under-used based aircraft, or one fairly intensively-used operating to 2 or 3 destinations per day.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 13:02
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Antalya - S19 flights now available. No frequency change. Will operate up to 6 x weekly
Bodrum - S19 flights now available. No frequency change. Will operate up to 3 x weekly
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Old 3rd May 2018, 13:11
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I would be very shocked if this is the final schedule from Jet2 for STN.I would expect STN to have a much bigger Jet2 presence than in 2019 given the bases are the same age and the LDN market is multitudes larger than the BHX market.

For comparisonÖ.


BHX Summer 2019 Jet2 Schedule
  • Routes: 41 Routes (33 Routes in 2018)
  • New Routes: 8 Routes: EGC, BOJ, CHQ, ADB, EFL, PRG, PUY, VRN
  • Routes Increased: 16x Routes: ALC, AYT, HER, FOA, FUE, LPA, IBZ, ACE, LCA, FNC, PMI, AGP, MAH, PFO, REU, TFS
  • Weekly Flights: 166x Weekly Flights (125x Weekly Flights in 2018)
  • Based Aircraft: 11x BHX Based Aircraft, +PMI & ALC based units (8.5x Based in 2018)
STN Summer 2019 Jet2 Schedule (So farÖ)
  • Routes: 35 Routes (32 Routes in 2018)
  • New Routes: 3 Routes: BOJ, CHQ, ADB
  • Routes Increased: 14x Routes
  • Weekly Flights: 171x Weekly Flights (153x Weekly Flights in 2018)
  • Based Aircraft: 12(?)x STN Based Aircraft, +PMI & ALC based units (10x Based in 2018)
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Old 3rd May 2018, 13:22
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 View Post
I make it a net gain of 18 weekly flights from Jet2, assuming the missing Turkey services will operate. Does that mean two additional based aircraft?
Just been looking at the schedule for August 2019. Looks like the 11 weekly flights to ALC arr being operated by a ALC based aircraft and it looks like a PMI based aicraft will operate up to 12 of the 14 weekly flights.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 13:31
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nwoody2001...

Do not forget EXS have expanded rapidly into the vacuum created by the loss of MON at BHX...

EXS at STN is market making...
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Old 3rd May 2018, 14:01
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Yes - none of our well-established UK airlines would dream of acting in this way....
Our well established UK airlines usually own sufficent aircraft before they actually start a route
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Old 3rd May 2018, 14:45
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Originally Posted by paully View Post
Our well established UK airlines usually own sufficent aircraft before they actually start a route
They are just as capable of a "lack of customer service, ignoring refunds, EU261 claims not acknowledged and left to their own devices when flights are cancelled" so equally deserve the attention of the CAA, which was the point I was making...
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Old 3rd May 2018, 14:55
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Paully...

Need to check facts & reasons before you comment on owning sufficient aircraft...
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Old 3rd May 2018, 15:10
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
nwoody2001...

Do not forget EXS have expanded rapidly into the vacuum created by the loss of MON at BHX...

EXS at STN is market making...
Or poaching from the likes of TUI and Thomas Cook at LGW, LTN as well as closer to home at STN.

People in the SE are price lead with their annual holiday and if they can save a couple of hundred pounds I think youíll find departure point isnít necessarily an issue. What we are now seeing is a reverse of a few years ago where people from Stanstedís immediate catchment area were having to travel to Gatwick for their jollies, now we have those who travel from LGW and LTNís catchment areas to Stansted to go on holiday. Itís clear Jet2 are going after market share.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 16:22
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As stated above to an extent so perhaps my own wording should have been better...EXS are market making STN....

Pleasing to see some reversal of the market flow that actually has endured for decades with LTN & LGW absorbing much of that traffic from the Sixties onwards...

The market share has been helped by the demise of MON & in LTN`s case has possibly left it "facing the wrong way" now...

LTN gained huge pax growth from the East in recent years & which may now be in some doubt & is losing some of the original Med market it was founded on back in the day...

Though the market is price sensitive do not under estimate the excellent public/customer perception of Jet2/Holidays & is further helped by their in house handling now...

Although many predicted the collapse of incumbent airlines traffic at STN,evidence is mainly proving otherwise...
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Old 3rd May 2018, 16:40
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Originally Posted by LGS6753 View Post
2 very under-used based aircraft, or one fairly intensively-used operating to 2 or 3 destinations per day.
The bulk of the additional frequencies take circa 4 hours each way, youíre not going to get 3 destinations per day with them.

In other news Iíve seen a lot of PR attention given to the launch of the Corsica fights.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 17:26
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The 2 Air Corsica A320`s were on the ground together a long time...(scheduled I hasten to add)...more than 3 hours...
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Old 3rd May 2018, 21:25
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Paully...

Need to check facts & reasons before you comment on owning sufficient aircraft...
Really..go on name them then??
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Old 4th May 2018, 00:35
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Though the market is price sensitive do not under estimate the excellent public/customer perception of Jet2/Holidays & is further helped by their in house handling now...
It’s all about price, no one cares about the rest, they say they do, they don’t.
Monarch thought they did care.....Monarch were taken apart bit by bit on price.
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Old 4th May 2018, 07:20
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One Echo...

Blimey & from a marketing guru too...

You require to think again about reputational value...it all goes into the mix certainly...

I think we also established that MON were taken apart by it`s very own top management not to mention asset stripper owners...
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Old 4th May 2018, 07:22
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo View Post
As I mentioned in a previous post, it was known that the National B757 was not very reliable to say the least and look what has happened over the last two weeks. I cannot believe they chartered this aircraft, surely the best thing to do was to put back that start date until the A321 was ready. They are now paying for their incompetence and unfortunately it is not looking good for Stansted as well. I am surprised that the CAA have not got involved, but maybe they have.
And if they'd put back the start, what then? The same "social media warriors" whinging bitterly; frankly having made the decision to start when they did they were / are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

With 20 / 20 hindsight (a talent in abundance on these threads) they'd have hit the ground running from STN and BHX in June, but they didn't.
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Old 4th May 2018, 07:53
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I get the feeling that Air Corsica's route to Figari is not selling particularly well. Special offers in May for flights to the beach in July should not be needed
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