Belfast International-2
Major investment is needed for a start, the crew of the virgin all come out to get their picture taken at the jumbo because its the only airport thay go to that dosent have a airbridge lol
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Could a 737 Max from a USA carrier with Domestic First class seats like Air Canada not work from Belfast? It'd be smaller than a 757 and they'd not have to worry about Yield from Business Class because it'd be cheaper.
The 737 MAX in that configuration is much more flexible and wouldn't have fleet issues i.e with being used on transcontinental flights where United cancelled several transatlantic flights to keep up with Jetblue and others competition, because it wouldn't be in that Premium heavy configuration.
Yes, I know that Norweigan had this configuration. But they're not a legacy carrier with connections and flights into major international airports, nor do they pull from American mileage fliers.
The 737 MAX in that configuration is much more flexible and wouldn't have fleet issues i.e with being used on transcontinental flights where United cancelled several transatlantic flights to keep up with Jetblue and others competition, because it wouldn't be in that Premium heavy configuration.
Yes, I know that Norweigan had this configuration. But they're not a legacy carrier with connections and flights into major international airports, nor do they pull from American mileage fliers.
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Norwegians entire narrow body fleet is all economy with either 186 or 189 seats, the MAX aircraft are all 189 seats, a combination of slim line seats and the new narrower toilet cubicle means the leg room is the same in either config give or take a knats whisker.
the use of secondary airports in the USA keeps costs and fares down but means there is probably not much premium traffic to be had and any such seats would attract punitive APD out of EDI
The personal feed back that I have had from passengers post flight is positive, touch down to gate time is never more than 5 minutes at PVD or SWF and about 10 minutes from push to take off on the MAX and 7 minutes on the NG
With 180 minutes ETOPS fuel tech stops don’t happen, having said that 189 and normal jet stream winds is not possible and loads are capped, east bound is no problem and I have 191 with ID crew on the jump seats.
word is that the MAX will replace the A321NeoLR next year
Norwegians entire narrow body fleet is all economy with either 186 or 189 seats, the MAX aircraft are all 189 seats, a combination of slim line seats and the new narrower toilet cubicle means the leg room is the same in either config give or take a knats whisker.
the use of secondary airports in the USA keeps costs and fares down but means there is probably not much premium traffic to be had and any such seats would attract punitive APD out of EDI
The personal feed back that I have had from passengers post flight is positive, touch down to gate time is never more than 5 minutes at PVD or SWF and about 10 minutes from push to take off on the MAX and 7 minutes on the NG
With 180 minutes ETOPS fuel tech stops don’t happen, having said that 189 and normal jet stream winds is not possible and loads are capped, east bound is no problem and I have 191 with ID crew on the jump seats.
word is that the MAX will replace the A321NeoLR next year
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I think we really lost out on Canada flights, Air Canada are flying the Max from SNN-YYZ and DUB-YUL. Norwegian also flying DUB-YHM next year. Surely if SNN can support a YYZ flight, we can?
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of course bfs can, we had a long standing canada airline until 2 loco carriers flooded the market and the 2 locos went bust and forced the long stander out.
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Schedule Changes Winter 2018/19 & Summer 2019
Ryanair:
Berlin - Tuesday flight moves to a Thursday for Winter 2018/19. Same as Summer 2018.
Thomas Cook:
Larnaca - Saturday flight dropped. Now only one weekly on a Wednesday for Summer 2019.
Dalaman - 3rd weekly flight added on a Saturday replacing Larnaca for Summer 2019.
Berlin - Tuesday flight moves to a Thursday for Winter 2018/19. Same as Summer 2018.
Thomas Cook:
Larnaca - Saturday flight dropped. Now only one weekly on a Wednesday for Summer 2019.
Dalaman - 3rd weekly flight added on a Saturday replacing Larnaca for Summer 2019.
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Hi Waffler.
BFS deserves at least 1
On what grounds?
I live quite close to BFS and use it frequently but use DUB far more often because of available services (including US pre-clearance), faster security clearance (7 minutes yesterday mid-day in T1) and no leaking roofs (that I have seen).
Furthermore, I don't have to pay a minimum £1 to drop off or collect passengers in DUB, trivial I know but bloody annoying.
BFS deserves at least 1
On what grounds?
I live quite close to BFS and use it frequently but use DUB far more often because of available services (including US pre-clearance), faster security clearance (7 minutes yesterday mid-day in T1) and no leaking roofs (that I have seen).
Furthermore, I don't have to pay a minimum £1 to drop off or collect passengers in DUB, trivial I know but bloody annoying.
Most passangers travelling to Dublin from the US in Summer originate from the USA, they want to visit ‘ Ireland ‘
Their perception of Ireland is Dublin, Galway and Kerry in general.
They want a safe, friendly , English speaking country to begin their gentle transition to European Travel using 1 currency.
if you want their business you have to give it to them.
We tend to view transatlantic flights from what we want out of it and you won’t fill an aircraft consistently from Belfast
unless you make it attractive to Americans and Canadians,
it will take more than Titanic and Game of Thrones tours.
on the positive side, the more flights that land anywhere in Ireland, the more chance of visitors including Northern Ireland
in their travel plans and seeing how wonderful it is.
Their perception of Ireland is Dublin, Galway and Kerry in general.
They want a safe, friendly , English speaking country to begin their gentle transition to European Travel using 1 currency.
if you want their business you have to give it to them.
We tend to view transatlantic flights from what we want out of it and you won’t fill an aircraft consistently from Belfast
unless you make it attractive to Americans and Canadians,
it will take more than Titanic and Game of Thrones tours.
on the positive side, the more flights that land anywhere in Ireland, the more chance of visitors including Northern Ireland
in their travel plans and seeing how wonderful it is.
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Hi Waffler.
BFS deserves at least 1
On what grounds?
I live quite close to BFS and use it frequently but use DUB far more often because of available services (including US pre-clearance), faster security clearance (7 minutes yesterday mid-day in T1) and no leaking roofs (that I have seen).
Furthermore, I don't have to pay a minimum £1 to drop off or collect passengers in DUB, trivial I know but bloody annoying.
BFS deserves at least 1
On what grounds?
I live quite close to BFS and use it frequently but use DUB far more often because of available services (including US pre-clearance), faster security clearance (7 minutes yesterday mid-day in T1) and no leaking roofs (that I have seen).
Furthermore, I don't have to pay a minimum £1 to drop off or collect passengers in DUB, trivial I know but bloody annoying.
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Agreed, there can be up to ten a day in shannon too. Perhaps once we’re out of the EU, Stormont will give United another incentive package?
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7 mins at mid day would be a fair comparison with BFS. You are at risk of misframing your comparison with busy spells for the purpose of your post. You don't have to spend anything to drop off at BFS either but they are far from the worst with regard to drop off charges. Have you seen the price at Manchester for those who want to drop off right in front?? As for US preclearance, I have heard horror stories of queue times there too. I was in DUB T1 for morning departures recently and the security queue was back to the boarding card scanners there too. Everywhere is just busy and passengers are not helping themselves...
How do I drop someone off (safely) at BFS without paying at least £1?
My overall, generally varied experience, is that BFS security is significantly slower than DUB but accept that either can have good and/or bad moments.
My experience of US pre-clearance at DUB has generally been very good although I accept there are (foreseeable) busy times, but it is always better than US Immigration & Customs in the US; I am convinced that the Agents mellow a little in Dublin!
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Maple leaf club
As the topic lack of routes to Oh Canada came up this week again.
The Maple leaf club got burnt out this week
The club that the Canada bound locals got together to fund charter flights to get over there.
The Maple leaf club got burnt out this week
The club that the Canada bound locals got together to fund charter flights to get over there.
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Ryanair/Manchester
Looks like Ryanair is adding extra flights to Manchester in September and October this year making it 11 weekly for them two months.
Extra flights are on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday starting from 1st September. Flight times are loaded into the Ryanair App but not able to book yet.
Still going two daily for Winter 2018/19 season.
Would be good to see East Midlands added by Ryanair at some stage too!
Extra flights are on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday starting from 1st September. Flight times are loaded into the Ryanair App but not able to book yet.
Still going two daily for Winter 2018/19 season.
Would be good to see East Midlands added by Ryanair at some stage too!
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