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Old 8th Mar 2019, 11:52
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Still think FR in the process of finalising winter 19/20

From looking at the proposal for flights

Monday KRK and ALC
Tuesday Nothing
Wednesday BGY and ALC
Thursday SXF and AGP
Friday KRK, ALC, MAN and STN !!!
Saturday BGY and AGP
Sunday SXF, AGP MAN STN !!!.....KRK being covered by KRK based aircraft

If I have got it wrong Im sure a poster will correct me
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 11:56
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So that's just one aircraft based then by the sounds of it with that schedule.
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 13:58
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Has TFS and ACE been cut?
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 14:48
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Is there any likelihood that some flights are still to be loaded? Honestly can't believe the STN cuts, especially as STN is pretty much fortress FR; and was handy for good value self connections across Europe. Now I know FR like to spin, but with EZY doing many domestic flights from BFS with double APD, yet they 'seem' to be coping. Is it because they had an established traveller base in NI?? I'd have hoped FR could have at least kept STN, over MAN, even if it was at EZY's expense. With yields possibly trashed to STN, was it a case that FR blinked first??

I wonder will these cuts be indicative of summer 2020, or possibly healthy demand from BFS during summer schedule, just rubbish through the winter?
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 15:25
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Because of the maverick approach by Ryanair, I would swim before flying with them. Would never trust them to fly me on a holiday. Frankly it's an additional stress that one does not require.
On a seperate note, they keep banging on about abolishing APD, if it ever was they would still find another way of causing chaos, whether with airports or more importantly traveller's plans.
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 16:03
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
Still think FR in the process of finalising winter 19/20

From looking at the proposal for flights

Monday KRK and ALC
Tuesday Nothing
Wednesday BGY and ALC
Thursday SXF and AGP
Friday KRK, ALC, MAN and STN !!!
Saturday BGY and AGP
Sunday SXF, AGP MAN STN !!!.....KRK being covered by KRK based aircraft

If I have got it wrong Im sure a poster will correct me
Not sure as 3 Polish destinations, Wroclaw, Gdansk and Modlin not bookable, one beyond Aug, other 2 beyond Oct.

Friends use Wroclaw - BFS on occasions and have never had a full plane even at Christmas and fares are low. They go close to Katowice and say KTW / KRK are the easiest airports but they say 1 extra hour and Wro is usable with fares 25% of the other 2, when 5 of them it makes a huge difference plus with less than full planes they never buy seats and take pot luck in sitting together and say they have never failed.
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 18:30
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Simple, BFS isn’t giving them the rock bottom deal that they want. BFS will run back to them in a few months time and all willl be good and a big massive expansion and then over time it’ll be chopped and churned. Unfortunately we know about it all too well in Shannon
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 18:55
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Originally Posted by snn20 View Post
Simple, BFS isnít giving them the rock bottom deal that they want. BFS will run back to them in a few months time and all willl be good and a big massive expansion and then over time itíll be chopped and churned. Unfortunately we know about it all too well in Shannon
Or maybe just run now !
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 19:27
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Why do they not pull out of dublin then?
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 19:47
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Originally Posted by owenc View Post
Why do they not pull out of dublin then?
Because they build up a following at BFS then pull out
They work on the basis 45-50% follow them down to DUB and they go on about APD and say how cheap Dublin is,even though it's not. One big base with lower costs and more passengers.....maybe.
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 20:58
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I'm told, fairly reliablly FR have struggled up against a very popular and well established EZY, same as EI. From what I'm hearing FR could only fill aircraft at a loss, and domestic doesn't really lend well to lots of ancillary revenue Its all a bit reminiscent of BHD some years ago, only not so crazy domestic wise

Looking at what's left its very similar to LS really, heavily driven on sunshine and an odd city route.
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Old 8th Mar 2019, 21:27
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Well you do wonder why they go up against Ezy on domestics when there are 2 routes out of Bfs with no competition, Ema and Lba. Why did they not try those instead of Man? I know these routes operate out of Bhd before someone tells me.
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 02:11
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How the hell they could consider these prices would work given that for every seat sold they pay £13 in APD?
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 02:49
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Well I just paid £110 for a return flight. So they can rise to £300 +.
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 08:45
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the answer to this has probably been written somewhere but how many a/c do FR currently base at BFS and how many after the flight reduction? The BFS crew are lovely people. Use the BGY route a lot and always had on time service with friendly crew.
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 10:26
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Maybe they will do CAX to compete with Loganair lol
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 10:40
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Those £4.99 fares are just teasers they throw in occasionally. There's another tier around £15 but most Stansted fares are £30+ one way.
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 12:07
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Originally Posted by El Bunto View Post
Those £4.99 fares are just teasers they throw in occasionally. There's another tier around £15 but most Stansted fares are £30+ one way.
They may be teasers but c'mon. These are flights going in a few days and they can barely give them away.
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 13:38
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Ezy announced extra flights to MAN, did they know about the announcement before it was officially released? Or were they gaining the upper hand?
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Old 9th Mar 2019, 13:50
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Originally Posted by True Blue View Post
Well you do wonder why they go up against Ezy on domestics when there are 2 routes out of Bfs with no competition, Ema and Lba. Why did they not try those instead of Man? I know these routes operate out of Bhd before someone tells me.
Indeed. Maybe they are learning that given the direct choice between FR and another low cost airline, people will pick the nicer airline. In this case EZY.

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