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Old 24th Jan 2018, 08:59
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Is it though Dipping their toe might be more appropriate
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 09:11
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Dident realise Poots decision had been overturned by the courts. As for Heathrow maintaining its numbers from BHD, BA currently down to four flights daily making a total of seven. EZY also operate three MAN flights Mon and Fri.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 10:43
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SNN used to be covered by an A330. The loads weren’t bad either.
It’s likely that Ryanair are prodding for weak points in the Easyjet network. I don’t personally believe that MAN can sustain 3 operators running a full schedule which would make toe dipping pretty pointless.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 10:59
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Originally Posted by snn20 View Post
RND22, what are you trying to imply? DUB and SNN are different markets altogether. DUB well because its the largest city on the island, lots of US MNCs also have their EU HQ there. SNN is situated in the Atlantic Economic Corridor, home to the largest cluster of investment outside of Dublin and also benefits from the Wild Atlantic Way ect... how does BFS compare to those?
I don't think it's even that. I just think Americans are more interested in visiting ROI than up here.

Also, Norweigan probably didn't work because of the service offered i.e into a small airport and no AVOD.

I would rather go to Dublin than set foot on a regionally configured plane for 7 hours.

If it had've been a full service carrier on a 737 Max, maybe it may have done better.

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Old 24th Jan 2018, 13:30
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Originally Posted by owenc View Post
I don't think it's even that. I just think Americans are more interested in visiting ROI than up here.
That shows how little you understand about a lot of things though. Americans don't usually understand and/or care that there is a difference. They travel to Ireland (of which we are a part, both geographically and culturally) The next problem with that is that we are marketed as a whole Island by the annointed tourism body. You could find a lot of people who will have a long discussion about how much focus the Northern part of the island gets in terms of advertising etc. in foreign markets, at least in terms of BFS/LDY/BHD as a potential entry point. This has a knock on effect on Tourism related industry here
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 13:38
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owenc does have a point though. Read any travel forum on the island of Ireland and 50% of them are interested in doing the exact same tour that starts in Dublin, goes to Kilkenny, Killarney, the Cliffs of Moher and Galway before flying out of Shannon (or the opposite way around).

What that actually shows though is that there is great potential for growth on the island as there are loads of areas that work for European tourists that the Americans scarcely see.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 13:46
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Originally Posted by SecondDog View Post
That shows how little you understand about a lot of things though. Americans don't usually understand and/or care that there is a difference. They travel to Ireland (of which we are a part, both geographically and culturally) The next problem with that is that we are marketed as a whole Island by the annointed tourism body. You could find a lot of people who will have a long discussion about how much focus the Northern part of the island gets in terms of advertising etc. in foreign markets, at least in terms of BFS/LDY/BHD as a potential entry point. This has a knock on effect on Tourism related industry here
You've just proven my point! I still reckon that we could sustain a narrowbody legacy flight to the East Coast.

If United weren't so keen on reducing their Transatlantic 757 services, we would still have one.

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Old 24th Jan 2018, 13:56
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Originally Posted by owenc View Post
You just proved my point!
No, you say that Americans only interesred in ROI. I said that they don't know or care what ROI is and they are flocking there en masse because they are sold that by the body who is supposed to promote the whole island.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 13:57
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Norwegian B737-8MAX lacks AVOD?
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 14:07
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Originally Posted by SecondDog View Post
No, you say that Americans only interesred in ROI. I said that they don't know or care what ROI is and they are flocking there en masse because they are sold that by the body who is supposed to promote the whole island.
I've flown both United to BFS and DUB and the BFS flight, was majority Northern Irish and the Dublin flight, majority American customers.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 19:55
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Seconddog is spot on. We got a bum steer up here from the Irish Tourist Board who were happy to pretend BFS never had a direct connection. I got that from some of the United staff before it was canned.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 21:35
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Lol, United staff from here, probally carrying ever bigger chips around that you lot. The tone of this this forum is why more people go South of the border.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 21:56
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What did the United staff say about the service?

They've been cutting their regional services so it probably would've been gone anyway.
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 01:01
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If the airport want to hit BHD with regional connectivity surely they could offer Loganair a great deal to start ABZ and INV.... possibly even DND? A daily flight to each with smaller aircraft and mostly oil rig passengers on the ABZ I donít think they would mind which airport the fly from but would hit Flybe and open a new market for BFS
With EZY starting IOM I think eastern will suffer and pull it resulting in NCL being pulled. Jetstream aircraft arenít cheap aircraft to fly, I see no marketing of the route and even if BHD offer them a good deal with fees the loads they are carrying will make no ods.
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 14:28
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The new Ryanair service from Belfast to Manchester will be on sale from tomorrow going by the MAN press release.
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 14:54
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Anyone know if Ryanair will be operating to Faro this year?
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 19:47
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This MAN announcement will certainly pile the pressure on Flybe. What next BHX or EMA?
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 20:08
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LBA? I'm surprised they haven't started flights to Palma or Madrid like they have from Newcastle! And a full season to Faro.
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 20:58
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I don't think FR are terribly interested in domestic from BFS or anywhere UK really. As has been said I think MAN is a gap filler, they can't profitably run 4x daily to STN and the a/c would be sitting idly for an afternoon.
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 21:57
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There is a few gaps for the other aircraft that is based.

Wed, Thur, Sat & Sun have gaps from around 12:20 to 16:35 and a Tuesday it doesn't move to around 16:35.

Monday and Fridays have no gaps.

Would there be any route that could work in them gaps?
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