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Old 9th Sep 2019, 08:27
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Which?

Who would subscribe to Which to work out which airport to fly from? If you are business, it's the schedule and if you are leisure its the price. I fly through BFS several times a year and yes it is shabby, but there have been recent improvements. No security delays when I fly but it's late in the evening. Much busier than when I worked there as a despatcher in the 80s and the ground handling seems to have improved over Servisair days.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 08:44
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I was not commenting on the veracity of the survey; rather the fact BFS has been the recipient of many episodes of disastrous PR over the last 12-18 months, if not longer. I often despair at the state of the place, the first impression many inbound tourists get.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 09:32
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I don't know why anyone still takes Which? surveys seriously. Every one of their recent surveys are statistically insignificant. They once voted Aurigny as the best airline in Europe on the basis of a sample size of 42 pax. This one interviewed 273 pax at Luton out of 16 million so the results are a complete and utter waste of everyone's time. Nothing to see here people, move along....
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 09:39
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I'm sure you are right, but Google Belfast airport and the top stories that come up all say it's the worst airport in Britain...
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 10:21
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Maybe they are of similar opinion to Ryanair who were always associated with the phrase "there's no such thing as bad publicity"?

I still prefer the statement they released when Norwegian left, something about how they were morons moving to Dublin. A strange approach to winning hearts and minds but people will use them if the price is right and the destination is what they want. Pax numbers are holding up if not increasing so it can't be that bad!

Meanwhile down at Harbour.......

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/b...d-one-16862700
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 12:33
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Ok 68 people don’t like BFS What about the other 6 million that use the airport
”Of the 4,499 people who took part in survey, 68 of them focused on Belfast International”
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 14:59
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
Ok 68 people don’t like BFS What about the other 6 million that use the airport
”Of the 4,499 people who took part in survey, 68 of them focused on Belfast International”
It is a small sample size but realistically how many people actually disagree with the sentiment?

Earlier this summer I spent two months commuting BFS-BRS. Since then BHD-LHR (T5). In both cases I have the same benefits ie. fast track, priority boarding and lounge access. The difference in travel experience is significant, in favour of BHD and LHR. Taking security as an example it hasn’t taken more than 5 minutes to clear at both BHD and T5 all summer.

I think the issue is that we (I was guilty of this) all have expectations of BFS that are too high. It is a hub for low cost airlines and as such we should not expect any level of service higher than that. If you get a day when it it exceeds those expectations, great. Otherwise, you got what you expected and are not disappointed.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 16:52
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Airports/air travel, railway/bus stations rail travel, and car travel these days is shite. Been through LGW, BRS, BFS, BOD all the same terrible experience wouldn't expect anything better.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 18:07
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Went through BGY last year on a last minute re-route. Expected the usual tired loco terminal but was pleasantly surprised. Bright and airy once airside.

BFS needs redevelopment - not just superficial rearrangement of restaurants but proper re-development. At certain times of day it is running at near full capacity in terms of stand usage so there is little point investing in the terminal unless they are also prepared to upgauge everything else: stands, parking, transport links etc. This only make sense if the owners think there is headroom to grow. Otherwise it makes more sense for them to squeeze the asset until it becomes more expensive to maintain the old buildings than to build a new one. It is the shabbiest looking medium sized passenger airport in the UK with maybe the exception of Exeter.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 18:20
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Originally Posted by speedrestriction View Post
Went through BGY last year on a last minute re-route. Expected the usual tired loco terminal but was pleasantly surprised. Bright and airy once airside.

BFS needs redevelopment - not just superficial rearrangement of restaurants but proper re-development. At certain times of day it is running at near full capacity in terms of stand usage so there is little point investing in the terminal unless they are also prepared to upgauge everything else: stands, parking, transport links etc. This only make sense if the owners think there is headroom to grow. Otherwise it makes more sense for them to squeeze the asset until it becomes more expensive to maintain the old buildings than to build a new one. It is the shabbiest looking medium sized passenger airport in the UK with maybe the exception of Exeter.
it will go nowhere fast, superficial touch ups here and there along with maybe some decent money spent. NI is going nowhere until we sort the hill out.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 21:52
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For me, I think they have brought some of this upon themselves. I have written to the main guy there on a number of occasions over a number of years about that canopy/roof as you approach the main entrance. The roof that leaks like a sive. On each occasion I have been assured that it will be repaired and soon. It has never happened. I think it is a disgrace. So little sympathy from me.
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 20:05
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Originally Posted by EGAC is Better View Post

It is a small sample size but realistically how many people actually disagree with the sentiment?
Agreed - the Which statistical sample is a nonsense but the publicity is real and the sentiment is undeniable. I'm happy to commute domestic via BFS but international arrivals is an embarrassment, there are 50s-70s era terminals in former eastern bloc airports that are better equipped and better modernised.

It didn't matter as much when international arrivals were mostly bucket and spade returnees, but if we have aspirations of inward tourism arrivals then this needs to be improved, our experience of arriving from Bergamo earlier this year with the loading well over 50% (anecdotally) non NI residents, then the arrival experience was absolutely dreadful and a terrible first impression of NI. You don't get a second chance at a first impression.

Speaking of which if BGY is lost from the RYR schedule then that is a crying shame, a fantastic route which seemed to be well used.
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 05:29
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So the FR story is now on BBC NI. FR has made their schedule changes but it seems that there will still be one aircraft in Bfs. Am I correct or have I missed something?
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 07:29
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 08:27
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Think pulling out entirely is wrong. Flights still on sale on a number of routes likely to be flown into Belfast from other Ryanair bases. The single based aircraft for Ryan in Belfast appears to be getting moved out as they are claiming they need to move planes around their network to plug holes because at this point in time they are short of a number of planned Boeing MAX aircraft. Doubt if any significant destination is getting closed down completely? They have a lot of ordered planes arriving in their lap fairly soon and they are going to have to put them all somewhere, so likely won’t want to cut off too many future options?
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 14:21
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Looks like FR will only be doing 8 weekly flights in the winter period
BGY once weekly non based aircraft
KRK twice weekly non based aircraft
ALC once weekly non based aircraft
STN twice weekly non based aircraft
AGP twice weekly one non based and one BFS aircraft???

Will this reduction encourage EZY and LS to increase flights??
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 07:44
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EZY BFS/NAPLES summer 2020 dropped?
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 10:17
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What is the source of this route cancellation?

oops

Just saw EZY spring / summer schedule

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Old 19th Sep 2019, 13:02
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For information

https://nitravelnews.com/news/easyje...-from-belfast/
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 22:34
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Ryanair - Summer 2020

Ryanair appear to be adding Gdansk and Warsaw back for Summer 2020 which is a good sign. Krakow also seems to be getting loaded into the system. All operated by Ryanair Sun.
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