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How is it possible one minute for the airport to have no airline flying the route, then next minute, there is total over-capacity on the route!
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Route from Zero to Over? Call me cynical but:
- Airline 1 plans route and gets permission from both ends.
- Someone in one of those places tips off their friends (or even casually mentions) the new route.
- Airline 2 have been thinking about that route and decide to head Airline 1 off from the start.
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Didn't this basically happen with Copenhagen about 3 years ago?
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Yes but that got silly with something like 8 flights a day. EZY probally have good loads at LGW but without slots thought they will try, WZZ just a natural upscaling like they have done on other routes, RYR already doing STN so why not up that route? Is this just like what we have to TLV?
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It's competition, nothing that out of the ordinary really.
The interesting point is how FR have shown a far greater interest in LTN over the past 6 - 12 months after being stagnant for many years. Arguably the collapse of ZB created an opportunity in certain markets, and the push from LS on their home turf seems to be hitting FR, I believe, harder then they may have first envisaged. Equally FR's stronghold at STN is largely now saturated and have, albeit slowly, been losing market share in LON overall with the expansion of their rivals. As such they've had to look towards LTN and SEN to fulfil their growth requirement. That in turn drives the need for more direct competition to shake the weaker capacity out of what is already an overcrowded aviation market.
The interesting point is how FR have shown a far greater interest in LTN over the past 6 - 12 months after being stagnant for many years. Arguably the collapse of ZB created an opportunity in certain markets, and the push from LS on their home turf seems to be hitting FR, I believe, harder then they may have first envisaged. Equally FR's stronghold at STN is largely now saturated and have, albeit slowly, been losing market share in LON overall with the expansion of their rivals. As such they've had to look towards LTN and SEN to fulfil their growth requirement. That in turn drives the need for more direct competition to shake the weaker capacity out of what is already an overcrowded aviation market.
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Just need to look at Copenhagen. Ryanair come along, saturate a route killing the competition and then retreat to their stronghold rather than leaving the bulk of the route at LTN.
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Does anyone know what is happening behind the hoarding/what is happening to the area connecting the new airside domestic baggage hall and landside arrivals?
It's been like a building site for months now with no hint of any work being carried out on it at all. Passengers are still being forced to walk through a twisting and turning corridor that has nothing but a paint-splattered concrete floor and plastic walls.
Bizarre.
It's been like a building site for months now with no hint of any work being carried out on it at all. Passengers are still being forced to walk through a twisting and turning corridor that has nothing but a paint-splattered concrete floor and plastic walls.
Bizarre.
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Construction update
A long wait was involved in capturing the walkway devoid of passengers between the new multistory to the left and the ring road to the right. This is the first part of the route from the temporary drop off zone to the terminal. The scaffolding is holding up a roof to protect passengers from falling objects.
Taken from the temporary drop off zone, the new multistory on this side juts out at various points. The bit beyond the stairwell is the first of two entrances to the new undercover drop off zone. As seen the drop off zone will have a high roof to help with ventilation.
Photo shows the first of two connections between Taxiway Delta and its new parallel taxiway. The third connection will be with Taxiway Alpha.
Photo shows in the background and to the right is the Dart maintenance area roof and to its left is the station. In the foreground are 3 sets of major foundations compared to the standard multistory foundations. The multistory will eventually head in the cameras direction but I have no idea what these foundations will support.
The old road has been buried under hardcore and crushed stones. Eventually this will support a temporary layer of concrete that will support a permanent roof. Once complete the temporary concrete, crushed stones, hardcore and clay will be dug out after the supporting walls are in place.
Taken from the temporary drop off zone, the new multistory on this side juts out at various points. The bit beyond the stairwell is the first of two entrances to the new undercover drop off zone. As seen the drop off zone will have a high roof to help with ventilation.
Photo shows the first of two connections between Taxiway Delta and its new parallel taxiway. The third connection will be with Taxiway Alpha.
Photo shows in the background and to the right is the Dart maintenance area roof and to its left is the station. In the foreground are 3 sets of major foundations compared to the standard multistory foundations. The multistory will eventually head in the cameras direction but I have no idea what these foundations will support.
The old road has been buried under hardcore and crushed stones. Eventually this will support a temporary layer of concrete that will support a permanent roof. Once complete the temporary concrete, crushed stones, hardcore and clay will be dug out after the supporting walls are in place.
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they look very unsightly, maybe some kind of artwork or posters.Join Date: Jul 2002
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Costs money and being paid for by LLAOL which is the concessionaire . Around the corner by the Dart there are posters showing various artists impressions of the Dart which is being paid for by the council so their boards are painted white as they have plenty of money.
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Yes you are correct. I was just starting to think the same so I checked the ground floor layout drawing which shows 3 lift shafts. The building shape is slightly different from the planning application, which also shows a second floor bridge linking both multistories. We will have to wait and see if the link bridge is built. What will be different is the application shows the 5th floor only extending over only half the building but counting the entrances to both cores the top floor will cover the whole building.