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BA/Cityflyer seems to have found a niche in regional flying to 'Premium Leisure' destinations and the C-Series would be a really good aircraft for the role (exc LCY). I can image EDI getting the same treatment at BRS/BHX/STN/MAN.
From what they said at the investor day, they are really trying to upgague LHR to 320's and 321's - so I don't think it will a 319 replacement.
At VY there is a gap - they have tried the 319, but so far the operations have been fairly limited.
From what they said at the investor day, they are really trying to upgague LHR to 320's and 321's - so I don't think it will a 319 replacement.
At VY there is a gap - they have tried the 319, but so far the operations have been fairly limited.
I suspect the above speculation is valid but it's worth bearing in mind the mantra now is IAG orders aircraft for IAG...not the individual airlines. It's highly unlikely but come the day the new aircraft could end up at Vueling.
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It was a bit disappointing to see EIR pull some UK regional airport routes so soon after the IAG takeover of EI and subsequent expansion of its transatlantic network before it had even had the chance to really market the DUB hub in the UK. So if EI can increase coverage under its own metal, this would be welcome.
With the Avios frequent flyer currency and EI and VY part of IAG with IB and BA, as well QR codeshares with BA, there is a big opportunity to regain a lot of lost ground in UK regional airports after the "London Airways" retreat of ten years ago.
However, at the moment it is very sporadic and there's no clear message to UK regional airport flyers. The travelling public at large have probably never heard of IAG, let alone which airlines are part of it.
With the Avios frequent flyer currency and EI and VY part of IAG with IB and BA, as well QR codeshares with BA, there is a big opportunity to regain a lot of lost ground in UK regional airports after the "London Airways" retreat of ten years ago.
However, at the moment it is very sporadic and there's no clear message to UK regional airport flyers. The travelling public at large have probably never heard of IAG, let alone which airlines are part of it.
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IAG is reported to be close to announcing an order for 7 A321neo long-range aircraft:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...for-aer-lingus
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...for-aer-lingus
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So it looks like either EI or DY to be first carriers to fly A321 LR to the US, both expected to enter service in 2019. EI had the first A330-300 ETOPS service to the US many years ago.
Kavanagh said recently it could be a config of 188 (16J, 172Y) was been looked at.
Kavanagh said recently it could be a config of 188 (16J, 172Y) was been looked at.
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Although Aer Lingus would be the first airline to fly the Airbus A321 LR from Ireland to the USA I think TAP Air Portugal will be the first airline to fly the type to the USA albeit from Portugal.
I've not mentioned Norwegian because we don't even know their plans if there are any!
I've not mentioned Norwegian because we don't even know their plans if there are any!
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IAG has reported its annual results and capacity plans for 2017.
No announcements about aircraft orders and new airlines but all 4 airlines will expand in 2017 with Aer Lingus having the highest percentage growth year on year:
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...35198008619875
No announcements about aircraft orders and new airlines but all 4 airlines will expand in 2017 with Aer Lingus having the highest percentage growth year on year:
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...35198008619875
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An announcement on low cost long-haul could be made this Friday according to this article (in Spanish):
IAG presenta el viernes su 'low cost' de larga distancia desde Barcelona | Empresas | Cinco Días
IAG presenta el viernes su 'low cost' de larga distancia desde Barcelona | Empresas | Cinco Días
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'Fly Level' Well, other than the three-degree nose-up pitch of an A330 in mid-cruise. Levelish.
Is Level even a word in Spanish? Most romantic languages corrupted the Latin 'libellus' to 'nivel / nevel / niveau' and similar back in the 1200s.
Is Level even a word in Spanish? Most romantic languages corrupted the Latin 'libellus' to 'nivel / nevel / niveau' and similar back in the 1200s.
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To pick up on a point raised in another thread, I think a justified criticism of IAG is that it does not appear to have a group marketing/customer service function overseeing the whole group.
IAG's approach to UK regional airports is a case in point.
IAG has four hubs from which it can feed traffic from UK regional airports: BCN, DUB, LHR and MAD.
And yet the network planning is all over the place.
IAG was on the record that part of the rationale of buying Aer Lingus was to capture transatlantic traffic it was losing from UK regional airports to DUB. Yet far from building the airline's profile in UK regional airports and timing flights to meet its transatlantic flight bank, it has retreated suspending EMA, LPL etc.
Vueling has growing coverage, albeit it is a bit sporadic particularly in terms of frequency and Iberia has never really made any attempt to capture traffic. BACF has also been doing its own thing.
With the common Avios currency and BA codeshare there should be a basis for a much more coherent offer.
IAG's approach to UK regional airports is a case in point.
IAG has four hubs from which it can feed traffic from UK regional airports: BCN, DUB, LHR and MAD.
And yet the network planning is all over the place.
IAG was on the record that part of the rationale of buying Aer Lingus was to capture transatlantic traffic it was losing from UK regional airports to DUB. Yet far from building the airline's profile in UK regional airports and timing flights to meet its transatlantic flight bank, it has retreated suspending EMA, LPL etc.
Vueling has growing coverage, albeit it is a bit sporadic particularly in terms of frequency and Iberia has never really made any attempt to capture traffic. BACF has also been doing its own thing.
With the common Avios currency and BA codeshare there should be a basis for a much more coherent offer.
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Nguba,
How go you figure network planning is all over the place? EI is a decent addition to the portolio, significant progress has been made already...
EI will firstly get anti trust immunity on transatlantic flying before it can be more collaborative with fellow IAG partners. Equally, like in.any organisation there are competing priorities, and on a commercial basis they are prioritised.
Again same for LPL, EMA , routes operate on a commercial basis, which is the key point. If they are not performing commercially or if there are other markets that deliver better return, they get priority. LPL has been tried and tested by network carriers Aer Lingus and KLM, it doesn't work, both have axed it. MAN has that covered.
How go you figure network planning is all over the place? EI is a decent addition to the portolio, significant progress has been made already...
EI will firstly get anti trust immunity on transatlantic flying before it can be more collaborative with fellow IAG partners. Equally, like in.any organisation there are competing priorities, and on a commercial basis they are prioritised.
Again same for LPL, EMA , routes operate on a commercial basis, which is the key point. If they are not performing commercially or if there are other markets that deliver better return, they get priority. LPL has been tried and tested by network carriers Aer Lingus and KLM, it doesn't work, both have axed it. MAN has that covered.
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CrankyFlyer has an interview with Willie Walsh who is characteristically bullish about the prospects of success for Level against LH and AF-KLM.
Across the Aisle from IAG CEO Willie Walsh on Level, His New Airline | Cranky Flier
Across the Aisle from IAG CEO Willie Walsh on Why His Long-Haul, Low-Cost Airline Will Work While Others Won?t | Cranky Flier
Across the Aisle from IAG CEO Willie Walsh on Level, His New Airline | Cranky Flier
Across the Aisle from IAG CEO Willie Walsh on Why His Long-Haul, Low-Cost Airline Will Work While Others Won?t | Cranky Flier
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IAG is reported to be the last remaining bidder for Austrian airline NIKI which was due to be acquired by Lufthansa who pulled out due to competition concerns:
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ai...-idUKKBN1EM18L
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ai...-idUKKBN1EM18L