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Old 26th Jun 2016, 08:10
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"Multi-fleet costs are only really an issue if the fleet sizes are small. An airline with 10 aircraft and 3 different types would be inefficient but once you are talking 100 plus airframes per type the savings from having a single fleet are negligible."

I think DtA that what you mean is that there is clearly an extra cost operating a 2 type fleet BUT there may be cost savings from optimistaion of type to route that outweigh those "duplication" costs if your netwrok is big enough
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 08:16
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It would be quite a turnaround by EZY to order the C-Series, they said they wanted a single fleet type fleet when they ordered the NEO, and have since been looking to the 321, rather than smaller. I can certainly understand the rationale though for a smaller aircraft, for the regional markets which they serve.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 08:21
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Given the uncertainty over Brexit, what British company would be prepared to make this level of commitment just now?
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 09:39
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I don't see it being easy, though I have been wrong before.
It's been said for a long time that two fleets, with a big enough fleet size, is no detriment to a LCC these days. Indeed, easy's history has seen it operate dual fleet. Airbus and Boeing were both operated for a time with the express intention of operating both. I.e not merely whilst the Boeing was being gradually withdrawn.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 11:45
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I thought the "British" in the original article was a hint, but does BA need a small plane?
Heathrow is short of slots and it would make sense for fewer short hall flights with bigger planes. They need the 320's and 321's so this is an extra type. They would be ideal for Cityflyer but the E. jets are reasonably young, when would they replace them? Would there be space in Gatwick for them or would BA return to the regions as they have now started some weekend flights? Most of the expanding airlines have many bases.
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Could "British" mean BA, Aer Lingus and Iberia? Between the three 100 might be plausible?
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Aer Lingus isn't British, they are Irish. Ireland is not part of the UK.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
Aer Lingus isn't British, they are Irish. Ireland is not part of the UK.
That rules out Citywing as well then
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
Aer Lingus isn't British, they are Irish. Ireland is not part of the UK.
I presume you decided to try and be facetious, though I'm not sure why, or why you decided it might be worthwhile to take it upon yourself to offer a primary school geography lesson.

Nevertheless, the fact remains that Aer Lingus is, in practical terms, a British-Spanish airline.
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Originally Posted by 01475
I presume you decided to try and be facetious, though I'm not sure why, or why you decided it might be worthwhile to take it upon yourself to offer a primary school geography lesson.

Nevertheless, the fact remains that Aer Lingus is, in practical terms, a British-Spanish airline.
No, you are wrong. Aer Lingus is part of IAG but is incorporated in, pays tax in, has its aircraft registered in and its head office in Ireland. Using your definition it is, in practical terms an Irish - British - Spanish airline.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 17:07
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Any major capital investment decision is going to be made by the parent on a group basis.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 17:30
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You presume wrong, I wasn't trying to be facetious, not in the slightest. You were factually wrong, so for clarity for the contributors and readers who aren't familiar with everything and anything "British" I thought I'd clarify it. Is that ok? Sorry I hurt your sensitive feelings.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 17:56
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We could always ask the source of the unconfirmed rumour what they mean by a "British" airline.

Or just wait a couple of weeks ...
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 18:27
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IAG order aircraft and then each airline in the group makes it's case why they should get them.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 20:59
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FZRA

Thank you. Very succinct & comprehensive answer. I now realize that a 2 type fleet might not be all that problematical to operate. Thanks to all for the replies.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 21:08
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Originally Posted by FZRA
You will most likely find that a certain number of Type Ratings will be thrown in for "free" or as part of the deal with Bombardier
Or indeed that there is no EZY deal with Bombardier ...
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 07:33
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Listening to comments EZY seems to not be the case, only leads me to think of Flybe tbh
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 09:56
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What on earth is flybe going to do with 100 C Series jets? There is no way on God's earth it's flybe. We don't have the money for one thing, and we don't like new aircraft and we certainly won't be increasing seat capacity by nearly 50% in a challenging market. The only real & likely candidate has already been stated on here - IAG/BA.
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 11:19
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Ah perhaps that was a little foolish of me then, will be interesting to see where they go with IAG then if it happens
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Old 27th Jun 2016, 12:00
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" British " c series

Maybe they're going to IAG short haul ( doesnt matter whether they're painted green, blue/white, or yellow ) feeding IAG long haul through Dublin. ( 'cos LHR full ). Oh and maybe a few for Cityflyer.
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